
July 31, 2026
Season 14 Episode 5 | 57m 44sVideo has Closed Captions
Oklahomans balk at the ongoing construction of new toll roads on or near their property.
Oklahomans balk at the ongoing construction of new toll roads on or near their property. Imagine an online-only school for children costing $40 thousand dollars in tuition alone? It will soon be a reality in Oklahoma. The federal director of the National Endowment for the Arts pays a visit to Oklahoma. A partnership to help archive hundreds of hours of music recorded by the late Leon Russell.
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The Oklahoma News Report is a local public television program presented by OETA

July 31, 2026
Season 14 Episode 5 | 57m 44sVideo has Closed Captions
Oklahomans balk at the ongoing construction of new toll roads on or near their property. Imagine an online-only school for children costing $40 thousand dollars in tuition alone? It will soon be a reality in Oklahoma. The federal director of the National Endowment for the Arts pays a visit to Oklahoma. A partnership to help archive hundreds of hours of music recorded by the late Leon Russell.
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CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY ON ANOTHER NEW HOME, A TOLL ROAD.
THEY'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE TURNPIKES.
WE THINK THAT'S UNEQUIVOCALLY UNTRUE.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO STUDIES ABOUT TRAFFIC.
DETAILS OF A NEW ONLINE SCHOOL FOR KIDS THAT COST $40,000 PER YEAR.
THE WAY THAT WE DETERMINE WHICH CAMPUSES WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IS BASED ON ORGANIC FAMILY DEMAND.
THE TASK OF ARCHIVING THE VAST MUSICAL OUTPUT OF OKLAHOMA LEGEND LEON RUSSELL.
HIS ARCHIVE IS IMPORTANT.
WHAT HE WROTE IS IMPORTANT, AND LUCKILY FOR THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, HE TAPED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING HE WORKED ON IN HIS STUDIO.
THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS VISITS OKLAHOMA.
I THINK ARTS IN THE HEALTH CARE FIELD IS A NECESSITY.
AND WE'RE LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT IT EVERY DAY.
AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ON A DISTURBING FIRST OF ITS KIND AI DATA BREACH.
OH, IT WAS AI.
IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW.
WHOOPS.
RIGHT.
SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT.
DOES PAYCOM HELPING ENSURE OKLAHOMA KIDS ARE READY FOR THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR?
NEXT ON THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
I'M RICH LENZ.
OKLAHOMA HAS MORE THAN 600 MILES OF TOLL ROADS, SECOND ONLY TO FLORIDA.
AND NEW TURNPIKE CONSTRUCTION REMAINS A THORNY ISSUE IN OUR STATE.
MOTORISTS DON'T LIKE THE TOLLS AND PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T LIKE THE ROADS BEING BUILT THROUGH OR NEAR THEIR LAND.
BE THAT AS IT MAY, CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES, INCLUDING A NEW STRETCH OF HIGHWAY NAMED IN HONOR OF THE LATE, GREAT TOBY KEITH.
STEVE SHAW HAS OUR REPORT.
THIS PAST TUESDAY IN NEW CASTLE, AT THE SITE OF A MASSIVE SOUTH CANADIAN RIVER CROSSING, PART OF WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE $3 BILLION TOBY KEITH EXPRESSWAY WAS TAKING FORM.
OKLAHOMA TURNPIKE AUTHORITY CREWS CAREFULLY WERE MOVING PIECES INTO A NEW PHASE.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE OKLAHOMA TURNPIKE AUTHORITY'S $8 BILLION ACCESS.
OKLAHOMA 15 YEAR LONG RANGE PLAN.
THIS PROJECT CONSTRUCTS TWO NEARLY 700 ZERO FOOT LONG BRIDGES OVER THE SOUTH CANADIAN RIVER.
IT ALSO CONSTRUCTS TWO OVERPASS BRIDGES OVER PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE ON THE TOBY KEITH EXPRESSWAY PROJECT HERE IN THE NEW CASTLE AREA.
THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE A VITAL RIVER CROSSING CONNECTION TO GET TRAVELERS BETWEEN I-44 AND THE NEW CASTLE AREA AND THE SOUTH OKLAHOMA CITY, MOORE AND NORMAN AREA ON I-35 CORRIDOR.
SOME OF THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT WE ARE CROSSING THE SOUTH CANADIAN RIVER, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO DO THAT.
WE DESIGNED IT TO COMPLETELY AVOID THE SOUTH CANADIAN RIVER CHANNEL.
SINCE EARLY JULY, A 1200 TON CRANE, ONE OF THE LARGEST CONSTRUCTION CRANES THIS AREA HAS EVER SEEN, MANEUVERED TEN 200 FOOT LONG STEEL GIRDER BEAMS DIRECTLY ABOVE THE SOUTH CANADIAN RIVER.
THIS NEW INNOVATION THAT WE UTILIZED WITH THE CONTRACTOR COMMUNITY IS THE FIRST IN OKLAHOMA.
AND THE REASON WHY IT WAS DONE IS WE WANTED TO STAY OUT OF THE CANADIAN RIVER.
SO WE WE DESIGNED THE BRIDGE TO COMPLETELY STAY OUT OF IT.
ACCESS OKLAHOMA PROGRAM MANAGER DAN NELSON SAYS JOB ONE IS TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT DISTURB AREA, WILDLIFE OR THE ENVIRONMENT.
AFTER WE HAVE PLACED THE STEEL BEAMS, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH PLACING OTHER BEAMS ACROSS THE BRIDGES, AS WELL AS PREPPING AND GETTING READY FOR DECK PLACEMENT ONCE THE REST OF THE BEAMS ARE PLACED THROUGHOUT THESE BRIDGES.
NELSON SAYS THE TWO BRIDGES THEY'RE WORKING TO CONSTRUCT NOW WILL EACH BE 7000FT LONG.
THEY'LL BE THE LONGEST BRIDGES IN THE STATE, NELSON SAYS.
ONE OF THE BRIDGES WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
THE OTHER ONE WILL BE FINISHED BY THE SPRING OF 2028.
WHAT IS GOING TO ALLOW MOTORISTS TO DO IS TO HAVE ANOTHER RIVER CROSSING.
THIS AREA REALLY NEEDS ANOTHER RIVER CROSSING IN ORDER TO GET TRAFFIC FROM ONE SIDE OF THE RIVER TO THE OTHER.
THAT ALSO ALLOWS MORE MOBILITY WITHIN THE NEW CASTLE AND THE NORMAN MOORE AREA.
THANKS TO AGREEABLE WEATHER SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND CREWS OUT HERE THAT CONTINUE TO HIT THEIR MARKS, THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT ON TIME.
THE OKLAHOMA TURNPIKE SYSTEM BEGAN IN THE LATE 1940S AFTER WORLD WAR TWO, OKLAHOMA TURNPIKE AUTHORITY SPOKESWOMAN LISA SHEAR SALEEM SAYS STATE LEADERS BACK THEN REALIZED STATE HIGHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO HANDLE POPULATION GROWTH.
THE TURNER TURNPIKE BETWEEN OKLAHOMA CITY AND TULSA WAS FINISHED IN 1953.
THE STATE'S OTHER TURNPIKES FOLLOWED.
WE HAVE A 630 MILE NETWORK THAT CURRENTLY SERVES AS AN ALTERNATE CHOICE FOR MOTORISTS ACROSS MUCH OF THE NORTHEASTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE STATE DOWN INTO SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA.
THESE TURNPIKES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LIMITED ACCESS, HIGH SPEED FACILITIES TO HELP MOVE PEOPLE FASTER, GET THEM TO THEIR DESTINATIONS, AND CONNECT THEM TO COMMUNITIES.
BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS A FAN.
SO WE HEARD ABOUT THE OKLAHOMA TURNPIKE AUTHORITY BACK ON FEBRUARY 22ND OF 2022, WHEN THEY HAD PROPOSED 59 MILES OF UNNEEDED TURNPIKES THROUGH CLEVELAND COUNTY AND THE CITY OF NORMAN, ONE OF WHICH WOULD HAVE TAKEN OUT MY ENTIRE HOUSE.
AND AS A CIVIL ENGINEER, I HAD A BIG PROBLEM WITH THEIR ROAD LAYOUT BECAUSE IT HAD NO TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT PROVED THAT IT WAS NECESSARY.
IT HAD NO REVENUE STUDIES THAT PROVED IT WOULD MAKE MONEY.
THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY IS A FINANCIAL DISASTER, AND THEY ARE ISSUING THESE BONDS FOR THE ACCESS PROGRAM, WHICH ACTUALLY THEY ARE IN PLACE TO BAIL OUT THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO, TO, TO PAY FOR OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND THE BOND DEBT.
THEY'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE TURNPIKES THAT THAT WE'VE SEEN ARE ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY.
WE THINK THAT'S UNEQUIVOCALLY UNTRUE.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO STUDIES ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE EXPECTED TOLL AMOUNT, TOLL REVENUE THAT WILL COME IN.
WE DON'T DO THOSE THINGS IN A LIGHT WAY.
WE ARE VERY CERTAIN ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW IT TAKES TIME FOR TRAFFIC TO BUILD UP ANY NEW TURNPIKE CORRIDOR THAT YOU OPEN, WE ESTIMATE TAKES ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO START REACHING ITS FULL POTENTIAL TRAFFIC.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE OF THE JOHN KILPATRICK TURNPIKE, THE OKLAHOMA HISTORICAL SOCIETY JUST LAST WEEK POSTED A POST ONLINE SHOWING WHAT THAT AREA LOOKED LIKE BEFORE THE TURNPIKE WAS BUILT, WHERE THERE WAS ALMOST NO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
IT WAS TOUGH.
YEAH, IT WAS, IT REALLY WAS.
THE THING IS, LIKE, I KNEW IT WAS COMING PROBABLY LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO.
I HEARD THE WHISPERS FROM THE HIGHER UPS.
LEVI BOSQUE OPERATES THE WILDLY POPULAR BUTCHER BARBECUE STAND RIGHT NEXT TO THE TURNER TURNPIKE IN WELLSTON.
TURNER TURNPIKE CONSTRUCTION TO WIDEN IT FROM 4 TO 6 LANES IN 2024 AND 2025.
HE SAYS, ALMOST BROKE HIM.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOUSES.
I COULDN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE.
BUT FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT'S VERY, VERY HARD.
BUT I MEAN, I'M TELLING YOU, THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
I MEAN, THERE REALLY IS.
STEVE SHAW, THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
STEVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
IT'S WHAT CRITICS OF INCREASINGLY SOPHISTICATED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FEAR MOST AN AI MODEL THINKING FOR ITSELF AND DELIBERATELY HACKING INTO ANOTHER TECH FIRM DESPITE INSTRUCTIONS FROM HUMANS NOT TO DO SO.
IT'S NOW HAPPENED FOR THE FIRST TIME, AT LEAST, THAT WE KNOW ABOUT.
SO WHAT NOW?
THAT'S THE TOPIC OF OUR UPCOMING IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION LATER IN THIS NEWSCAST, FEATURING MODERATOR SUSAN AND HER PANEL OF GUESTS.
HERE'S A PREVIEW.
OPEN AI WAS FIELDING A NEW MODEL, THE COMPANY BEHIND CHATGPT.
EVERYBODY KNOWS CHATGPT, AND THEY ARE DOING, OFFENSIVE TESTING.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CAPABILITIES OF THIS MODEL ARE BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S PRETTY STANDARD TO DO.
IT APPEARS THAT IT BROKE OUT OF THE CONFINES THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO WORK IN.
THINGS THAT CONCERN ME IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, PUSHBACK ON, OH, WE DID THIS.
IF I HAD HACKED HUGGING FACE AS AN INDIVIDUAL, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSEQUENCES, RIGHT?
BUT OH, IT WAS AI.
IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW.
WHOOPS.
RIGHT.
SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW I'M DIFFER A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK IT'S IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
I THINK HICCUPS LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN AS LONG AS A COMPANY RAISES THEIR HAND AND SAYS, HEY, WE DID IT, THEN I THINK THAT'S ADMIRABLE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE GUARDRAILS TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
THE REST OF THAT CONVERSATION COMING UP LATER IN THIS NEWSCAST.
IMAGINE AN ONLINE SCHOOL FOR CHILDREN THAT COSTS $40,000 PER YEAR.
SUCH A SCHOOL EXISTS AND WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY?
AND SHOULD TAXPAYER DOLLARS BE AVAILABLE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST?
NOAH MACK JOINS US FROM OUR NEWSROOM WITH THE ANSWERS.
NOAH.
RICH.
IT'S CALLED ALPHA SCHOOL, AND IT'S BEEN MAKING WAVES FROM THE TODAY SHOW TO DOCTOR PHIL.
AND THAT TORRENT IS BRINGING IT OUT HERE TO EDMOND IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF ITS TEACHING MODEL, BUT LESSONS ARE ONLY TWO HOURS A DAY.
BY AUGUST, THIS EMPTY EDMOND STOREFRONT WILL BECOME THE SITE OF AN EXPERIMENTAL NEW SCHOOL DUBBED ALPHA.
ITS UNORTHODOXY IS ITS GIMMICK.
NO HOMEWORK, NO REPORT CARDS.
NO LECTURES.
NO TEACHERS.
ALPHA SUPPLANTS THE TRADITIONAL TEACHER WITH AN ONLINE INTERFACE DRIVEN BY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
MY INITIAL REACTION WAS THAT IT'S CRAZY.
A MOTHER OF TWO CURRENT PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS, LINDSEY SHERWOOD, IS AN AVID ADVOCATE AGAINST TECH IN THE CLASSROOM.
IT WOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, NEGLECTFUL TO THEM TO BE WITHOUT THE HUMAN NATURE AND THE HUMAN RELATIONSHIP THAT COMES FROM LEARNING FROM A TEACHER, A ROBOT, AN AI CANNOT PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE THAT A CHILD NEEDS WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO LEARN HARD THINGS.
HERE'S HOW ALPHA SCHOOL WORKS FOR A $40,000 TUITION, STUDENTS COME IN, CRACK OPEN A LAPTOP, AND WHAT THEY CALL THE AI TUTOR WALKS THEM THROUGH CURRICULUM, MATH, SCIENCE, READING, ETC.
THE AI MODEL TRACKS THE STUDENT'S PROGRESS AND LEVEL OF COMPREHENSION DOWN TO DETAILS LIKE PACE OR EVEN EYE MOVEMENT.
AFTER ROUGHLY TWO HOURS, THEY'RE DONE.
FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, THEY ENTER WHAT'S CALLED WORKSHOPS, HANDS ON, REAL WORLD STUFF.
THESE WORKSHOPS CAN RANGE FROM RUNNING A FOOD TRUCK ON A HALF OR HALF AN ORDER OF FRENCH TOAST COMING UP, BIKING ACROSS THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE.
MY LEGS HURT, OR PERFORMING A NAVY SEAL AQUATIC RESCUE.
I PULLED SHAWN 25 YARDS.
THERE ARE ADULTS INVOLVED.
ALPHA CALLS THEM GUIDES.
GUIDES DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN EDUCATION BACKGROUND.
THEY SERVE MORE AS MOTIVATORS RATHER THAN INSTRUCTORS.
ME AND MY GUIDE.
WE JUST KIND OF LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE WEEK IS GOING.
SOME THINGS WE LIKE TO IMPROVE ON AND THEN FOR THE REST OF THE TIME WE JUST TALK ABOUT ANYTHING.
ALPHA HAS 13 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY PREPARING TO ADD 27 TO THAT LIST, INCLUDING TULSA AND EDMOND, OKLAHOMA.
ALPHA SCHOOL CO-FOUNDER MACKENZIE PRICE SAYS THAT'S BECAUSE PARENTS ARE ASKING FOR IT.
OKLAHOMA IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE I THINK THE INTEREST JUST REALLY SPREAD, YOU KNOW, THROUGH FAMILIES.
THAT ENDED UP SAYING THERE WERE TWO CITIES WORTH OF PEOPLE WHO SAID, HEY, WE REALLY WANT TO BRING ALPHA HERE.
AND SHE SAYS THEY HAVE THE RESULTS TO BACK UP THE HYPE.
ACCORDING TO A REPORT FROM ALPHA, THEIR STUDENTS REGULARLY RANK IN THE 99TH PERCENTILE OR TOP 1% NATIONALLY FOR CERTAIN STANDARDIZED TEST SCORES.
MACKENZIE CLAIMS THAT'S BECAUSE THE AI IS PERSONALIZED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF A FIFTH GRADER IS READING AT A THIRD GRADE LEVEL, THE AI CAN TAILOR THE LESSONS TO CATCH THEM UP.
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF EVERY SINGLE CHILD HAD THEIR OWN HUMAN TEACHER WHO WAS AN EXPERT IN EVERY SUBJECT THAT THEY WERE GOING, AND WAS ABLE TO SIT NEXT TO THEM AND WORK THROUGH?
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE IN A TRADITIONAL MODEL.
MACKENZIE SAYS THE TRADITIONAL TEACHER DOES NOT HAVE TIME OR RESOURCES TO CATER TO EVERY STUDENT AS EFFICIENTLY AS AN AI.
HENCE WHY THERE ARE NO TEACHERS AT ALPHA.
MACKENZIE BELIEVES THIS MODEL IS THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION IN AMERICA.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO A TEACHER WHO'S KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THIS IDEA?
WELL, I GET TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS A LOT, AND WHAT I TELL THEM IS THAT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A MORE EXCITING TIME TO BE A TEACHER THAN RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE ARE FINALLY ENABLING THE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO DEDICATE THEIR LIVES TO WORKING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE TO HAVE EVEN MORE POSITIVE IMPACT THAN THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE IN A CLASSROOM WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO MANAGE REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TASKS.
THE TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM BY ITSELF WOULDN'T DO WELL AT ALL.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT HUMAN CONNECTION AND THAT HUMAN SUPPORT, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE WAY OF TEACHING.
THE PRINCIPAL OF ALPHA SCHOOL IS WEALTHY TECH MOGUL JOE LEMONT.
IT'S GARNERED HIGH PRAISES FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHICH HAS INVESTED A LOT IN AI DEVELOPMENT, WITH EDUCATION SECRETARY LINDA MCMAHON CALLING IT AN INSPIRING MODEL.
AND EVEN OKLAHOMA'S OWN GOVERNOR, KEVIN STITT, EMBRACES THE MODEL.
VISIT AN AI SCHOOL, WHICH HAS AMAZING TECHNOLOGY THAT I WANT TO INTRODUCE BACK TO OKLAHOMA AS WELL.
GOVERNOR STITT LIKES THIS IDEA.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
IT'S ONE OF HIS BUDDIES PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE SOME MONEY.
I HATE I HATE TO SAY IT.
REPRESENTATIVE JACOB ROSECRANCE, A FORMER GRADE SCHOOL TEACHER, ACKNOWLEDGES THE DISILLUSIONMENT MANY OKLAHOMANS HAVE AROUND TRADITIONAL EDUCATION BUT IS APPREHENSIVE ABOUT ALPHA.
IT IS CREEPY TO ME TO THINK THAT THERE IS A SCHOOL OUT THERE THAT IS GOING TO BE RELYING ON AI MORE THAN ANYTHING TO TEACH CHILDREN.
REPORTING FROM THE OKLAHOMA WATCH SHOWS THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION PLACED ALPHA ON THE LIST OF SCHOOLS THAT QUALIFY FOR THE STATE'S PARENTAL CHOICE TAX CREDIT.
AFTER QUESTIONING FROM THE PUBLICATION, THE TAX COMMISSION REMOVED ALPHA FROM THE LIST, AS THE OKLAHOMA CHAPTERS ARE NOT YET ACCREDITED.
IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M AGAINST THE TAX CREDIT FOR THIS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON, ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FACING AGENCIES, MENTAL HEALTH AND EVEN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEING SPENT ON A PRIVATE SCHOOL EDUCATION.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, AND MAYBE BRINGING IN SOME OF WHAT THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE DOING, TO OUR, TO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
ROSECRANS AND LINDSAY LOVE ALPHA'S REAL WORLD LEARNING, BUT THAT DOESN'T QUITE CONVINCE LINDSAY.
I WILL NOT BE ENROLLING THEM IN ALPHA SCHOOL.
THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I WILL, THOUGH, BE CONTINUING TO TEACH MY KIDS LIFE SKILLS.
AND THAT WILL MEAN THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PRIORITY FOR ME, AND I HOPE IT'S A PRIORITY FOR TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS.
ALPHA SCHOOL INITIALLY ACCEPTS 25 TO 30 FAMILIES BEFORE OPENING A NEW SCHOOL.
AFTER THAT, OPEN ENROLLMENT BEGINS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
RICH.
NO THANK YOU.
WELL, WE'RE JUST ABOUT TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM SCHOOL STARTING FOR OKLAHOMA CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SO NOW IS THE TIME TO START GATHERING UP THE SUPPLIES THAT YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO NEED.
AND ON TUESDAY, HUNDREDS OF KIDS ARE ON THE RECEIVING END OF FREE BACKPACKS PACKED WITH NEEDED SUPPLIES, COURTESY OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF OKLAHOMA COUNTY AND THE PAYCOM CORPORATION, WHICH DONATED $31,000 TO HELP PAY FOR THE SUPPLIES.
PAYCOM EMPLOYEES ALSO VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND MONEY TO MAKE THIS A SPECIAL EVENT FOR EVERYBODY.
WE CAN STRETCH $31,000 FARTHER THAN ANYONE WOULD PROBABLY EVER IMAGINE.
WHEN YOU ARE A NONPROFIT AND YOU HAVE KIDS WHO YOU ARE SERVING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, YOU STRETCH EVERY DOLLAR AND EVERY PENNY, AND IT JUST MEANS THE ABSOLUTE WORLD TO US.
AND IT'S ESPECIALLY MEANINGFUL BECAUSE THOSE DOLLARS WERE COMING BOTH FROM THE EMPLOYEES AND THE COMPANY AT PAYCOM.
AND THERE'S NOTHING MORE EXCITING AS A KID WHEN YOU'RE GETTING BACK TO GO TO SCHOOL TO GET THAT BACKPACK, BECAUSE THAT REALLY SYMBOLIZES THE START OF A WHOLE NEW, FRESH YEAR, AND THE KIDS ARE SUPER EXCITED TO GET THOSE TODAY.
ONE, TWO, THREE.
THANK YOU.
PAYCOM.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS SINCE 2020, AND WE JUST LOVE WHAT THEY DO.
THEY EMPOWER THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE OUR FUTURE INNOVATORS AND THINKERS IN AMERICA.
AND SO WE'RE JUST VERY PROUD.
IT'S KIND OF PART OF OUR HEART IS TO GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, GIVE TO KIDS.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE DO.
OUR EMPLOYEES GIVE AND THEY GIVE EVERY SINGLE MONTH TO A DIFFERENT CHARITY.
AND THEN OUR THEN PAYCOM MATCHES, WE HAVE A COMPANY MATCH OF WHAT EMPLOYEES DONATE AND WE GIVE EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 16 BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB SITES IN OKLAHOMA COUNTY, SERVING MORE THAN 17,000 CHILDREN IN THE OKC METRO AREA.
THE CHAIR OF THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS, MARY ANN CARTER, SPENT TWO DAYS IN OKLAHOMA CITY THIS WEEK DISCUSSING A VARIETY OF TOPICS WITH AMBER SHARPLES, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OKLAHOMA ARTS COUNCIL, AND SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
JASON DOYLE JOINS US NOW WITH MORE ON THAT.
JASON RICH, NEA CHAIRWOMAN CARTER WAS IN OKLAHOMA TO SEE HOW ART IS BEING USED TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OKLAHOMANS.
AND WHILE YOU MAY NOT THINK OF ART AS A WAY OF HEALING, THAT'S PART OF THE MESSAGE SHE'S SENDING DURING HER VISIT TO OKLAHOMA CITY.
THURSDAY AFTERNOON AT THE FIRST AMERICANS MUSEUM, NATIVE MUSICIAN TIMOTHY TATE NEVAQUAYA PLAYS WHILE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS CHAIR MARY ANN CARTER WATCHED FROM THE AUDIENCE.
A FEW MINUTES LATER, SHE JOINED OKLAHOMA ARTS COUNCIL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AMBER SHARPLES ON STAGE FOR A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION.
CARTER TOLD THE CROWD THAT NATIVE AMERICAN ARTISTS ARE VITAL TO THE FEDERAL ARTS PROGRAM.
TRIBAL COMMUNITIES ARE ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
SO, SO I REALLY FEEL GOOD ABOUT A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE.
THEY DISCUSS THE MANY WAYS ART CAN MAKE LIFE BETTER IN WAYS THAT ARE MORE THAN JUST LOOKING AT A PAINTING OR SCULPTURE.
WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED CREATIVE FORCES, AND IT'S A THERAPEUTIC ARTS PROGRAM THAT HELPS OUR WOUNDED MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, ESPECIALLY THOSE SUFFERING FROM TBI, TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY, OR PTSD.
DURING THE Q&A, CARTER SAYS THAT ARTS CAN BE USED FOR HEALING IN MANY WAYS.
SO TO ME, ARTS AND HEALTH IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE ARTS ARE GOING.
IT'S WHERE EXPANSION IS.
IT'S WHERE OPPORTUNITY IS.
EARLIER THIS WEEK, DIRECTOR SHARPLES TOLD OETA THIS VISIT BY THE CHAIRWOMAN GIVES OKLAHOMA A CHANCE TO SHOWCASE HOW ARTS ARE PART OF THE WAY OF LIFE IN THE SOONER STATE.
I THINK WITH CHAIR CARTER'S VISIT, WE ALREADY ARE SHOWING OFF HOW WE LEVERAGE OUR STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIP.
THIS WILL BE WHERE SHE GETS TO SEE THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL INTO STATE ARTS AGENCIES, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
NEA CHAIRWOMAN MARY ANN CARTER'S TOUR OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY ART SCENE BEGAN RIGHT HERE AT THE OKLAHOMA CITY NATIONAL MEMORIAL.
AND THERE'S GOOD REASON WHY THE NEA WAS INVOLVED WITH ITS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
SOME WAS JUST HEALING, IF YOU WILL, BUT THERE WAS ALSO FINANCIAL SUPPORT GIVEN TO HELP THE BEGINNING AND THE START OF THIS MEMORIAL.
ALSO JUST TO VARIOUS ARTS ORGANIZATIONS SO THEY COULD COME TOGETHER AND HELP THE PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA CITY DEAL WITH WHAT HAD JUST HAPPENED.
I MEAN, IT WAS TRAUMATIC, CARTER SAYS.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS GOT INVOLVED IN THE AFTERMATH FOR MAJOR TRAUMATIC EVENTS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT EVER SINCE.
AND SO AS AS HORRIBLE AS THIS EVENT WAS, WHAT CAME WHAT STEMMED FROM IT, WHAT BLOSSOMED FROM IT IN SO MANY WAYS, BUT IN THE AGENCY'S WAY IN PARTICULAR, HAS ENDED UP TURNING AROUND AND HELPING SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE DOWN THE ROAD.
WHILE THE MEDIA WAS NOT ALLOWED TO JOIN THE TOUR WITH CARTER INSIDE THE NATIONAL MEMORIAL MUSEUM, SHE DID SAY BOTH THE EXTERIOR, WITH ITS WELL KNOWN REFLECTING POOL AND 168 CHAIRS MEMORIALIZING THOSE KILLED IN THE TRAGEDY, ALONG WITH THE EXHIBITS INSIDE REALLY TOUCHED HER.
I MEAN, THIS IS TRULY A PLACE TO COME REFLECT.
AND BUT YOU STILL SEE THE RESILIENCE.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PART ABOUT MEMORIAL MUSEUMS IN PARTICULAR.
BUT THIS ONE ESPECIALLY YOU HAVE THE FRONT AND BACK OR THE OUTSIDE AND THE INSIDE THAT WORK TOGETHER.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY MOVING, BUT UPLIFTING AT THE SAME TIME.
CARTER SAYS PLACES LIKE THE OKLAHOMA CITY NATIONAL MEMORIAL CAN LEAD TO HEALING FROM TRAUMA.
LATER THAT AFTERNOON, SHE GOT A CHANCE TO EXPERIENCE ANOTHER WAY TO HEAL THROUGH ART AT THE OKLAHOMA CITY BALLET.
WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME SLOW MO RUNNING LIKE WE DID EARLIER.
SO DRAMATIC MUSIC VIDEO.
OKAY, DID YOU DO AN OPTION?
SO TODAY WE HAD A DANCE FOR PARKINSON'S CLASS.
IT IS A DANCE MOVEMENT CLASS THAT IS DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WITH PARKINSON'S OR REALLY ANY MOVEMENT DISORDER.
AND WE SORT OF SAY IT'S THERAPEUTIC IN ITS RESULT, BUT NOT THERAPY BECAUSE IT'S A DANCE PARTY.
ERIKA PORTELL IS THE INSTRUCTOR FOR THE PARKINSON'S DANCE CLASS, WHICH THE OKC BALLET IS HELD FOR THE COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
IT IS A WAY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING PARKINSON'S, AS WELL AS THEIR CAREGIVERS, TO COME IN AND HAVE SOME DANCE INSTRUCTION, ENJOY SOME GREAT MUSIC AND SOME SOCIAL TIME.
PORTELL AS A PERSONAL REASON FOR TEACHING THIS CLASS, MY DAD STARTED EXPERIENCING A TREMOR AND HE WAS LIKE, MAYBE I'VE HAD TOO MUCH CAFFEINE.
THEN HE WENT TO THE DOCTOR.
ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER AND HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH PARKINSON'S.
HIS DISEASE PROGRESSION WAS REALLY FAST AND CATASTROPHIC.
PORTELA STORY ALSO TOUCHES CHAIRWOMAN CARTER AS THE INSTRUCTOR WAS SAYING HER FATHER HAD PARKINSON'S, SO DID MINE.
AND HE ALSO HAD DEMENTIA IN HIS LATER YEARS, CARTER SAYS.
ART THERAPY LIKE THIS AT THE OKC BALLET CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THOSE SUFFERING FROM PARKINSON'S OR OTHER CONDITIONS.
ARTS IN THE HEALTH CARE FIELD IS A NECESSITY.
AND WE'RE LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT IT EVERY DAY, SHE ADDS.
DOCTORS ARE STARTING TO PRESCRIBE ART THERAPY MORE OFTEN AS AN OPTION, EVEN WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION.
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BALLET SAYS THESE TYPES OF CLASSES ARE A WAY TO BE AN ACTIVE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE BELIEVE THAT DANCE IS FOR EVERYBODY, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOUR BODY TYPE, YOUR MIND TYPE IT.
DANCE CAN BE FOR ANYONE AT ANY TIME, AND IT CAN BE A JOYFUL EXPRESSION.
IT CAN BE A SOULFUL EXPRESSION.
BUT ANYBODY IS, READY TO DANCE AT ANY TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THIS BUILDING COMMUNITY AND HEALING TWO THINGS, WHICH CARTER SAYS ARE THE RESULTS OF LETTING THE ARTS FLOURISH.
THE ARTISTS NEED TO MAKE A LIVING.
AND THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES WE CREATE FOR THEM, THE BETTER OFF THEY'RE GOING TO BE, AND THEN THE BETTER OFF PATIENTS ARE GOING TO BE, THE BETTER OFF COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO BE.
BY THE WAY, INTERESTING FACT ABOUT ARTS IN OKLAHOMA.
IT GENERATES A $5 BILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE STATE EACH YEAR AND EMPLOYS MORE THAN 48,000 PEOPLE.
RICH, JASON, GREAT STORY.
THANK YOU.
THE CHOCTAW NATION AND OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY ARE TEAMING UP TO OFFER ONLINE LEARNING TO CHOCTAW NATION EMPLOYEES WHO CAN'T ATTEND IN-PERSON CLASSES DUE TO THEIR SCHEDULES.
THERE IS NO UPFRONT TUITION COSTS, AND STUDENTS CAN TAKE UP TO 18 UNDERGRADUATE HOURS OR NINE ADVANCED CREDIT HOURS PER YEAR.
AND SINCE IT'S ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE, ANY MEMBER OF THE CHOCTAW TRIBE, THE NATION'S THIRD LARGEST INDIAN TRIBE, CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM, EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
YES, THIS IS 100% ONLINE.
IT'S MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ADULTS, THOSE PEOPLE WHO WORK FROM 8 TO 5 BUT WANT TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION BUT CAN'T ATTEND TRADITIONAL IN-PERSON CLASSES.
SO THIS IS A PHENOMENAL WAY TO HELP SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TRIBES.
AND ALSO IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP, WITH THE ABILITY TO OFFER CHRISTIAN HIGHER EDUCATION TO THE CHOCTAW NATION OF OKLAHOMA, WE ALIGN SO WELL WITH THEIR FAITH AND FAMILY CULTURE PILLARS THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THE COURSES ARE TAUGHT IN SEVEN WEEK SESSIONS IN BOTH, AGAIN, UNDERGRADUATE AND ADVANCED DEGREES ARE AVAILABLE.
ARCHIVING THE ENTIRE MUSICAL OUTPUT OF THE LEGENDARY LEON RUSSELL IS A HERCULEAN TASK.
THE TULSA NATIVE SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS IN RECORDING STUDIOS, PRODUCING A VAST AMOUNT OF MATERIAL, MOST OF IT NEVER RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.
FOR MUSIC LOVERS, IT'S A TREASURE TROVE WAITING TO BE PROPERLY CATALOGED.
AND NOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
TAELYR JACKSON JOINS US NOW WITH THE DETAILS.
TAELYR.
THAT'S RIGHT.
RICH, A NONPROFIT IN SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA, RECENTLY RECEIVED A GRANT WORTH A LITTLE MORE THAN $100,000 TO HELP START A PROJECT THAT'S YEARS IN THE MAKING.
THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN BEEN DREAMED ABOUT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
RONDA NORRELL WITH LAWTON ARTS FOR ALL, IS TALKING ABOUT THE LEON RUSSELL ARCHIVE PROJECT THAT IS NOW BEING BROUGHT TO LIFE THANKS TO A $100,983 GRANT FROM THE MCMAHON FOUNDATION.
SO TO SAY THAT LAWTON RECEIVED THE GRANT, THE FUNDING TO TO PROTECT THESE ARCHIVES IS WAS RELIEF.
I MEAN THE WITH THIS BEING HIS BIRTHPLACE, IT'S IT'S A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.
ARTS FOR ALL IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 1977.
THE GRANT WILL HELP FUND THE PRESERVATION AND CATALOGING OF LEON RUSSELL, WHO CREATED 33 ALBUMS AND ROUGHLY 430 SONGS DURING HIS LIFETIME.
MCMAHON FOUNDATION EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAROL HERRICK SAYS THE ORGANIZATION WAS HAPPY TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT, SOMETHING THAT FOCUSES ON THE CULTURAL ASPECT OF OF HIS CATALOG, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS CAMERON STUDENTS TO PUT HANDS ON AND DEVELOP PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT KIND OF BRINGS OUR FOCUS ON ARTS AND CULTURE, WHICH WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE MCMAHON FAMILY AND EDUCATION.
TOGETHER, THE ACADEMIC PARTNERSHIP WILL ALLOW FOR STUDENTS TO LEARN ARCHIVAL PRESERVATION.
I THINK LEON RUSSELL HAS HAD SUCH A PROFOUND IMPACT ON AMERICAN MUSIC, AND SO GETTING TO HONOR AND SUPPORT THAT, AND IN PARTICULAR, TO HONOR AND SUPPORT HIS CONNECTION TO LAWTON-FORT SILL IN SOUTHWEST OKLAHOMA.
SHANE HUNT IS THE PRESIDENT OF CAMERON UNIVERSITY.
WE HERE AT CAMERON ARE BLESSED TO HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY ARTS PROGRAM AND MUSIC PROGRAM.
AND SO WHEN THE CHANCE CAME UP TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR STUDENTS IN THE ARTS, WITH OUR STUDENTS IN OUR HISTORY PROGRAM, WHO ARE STUDYING TO BE ARCHIVISTS AND WORKING ON THAT, WHEN IT BECAME A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO HELP MAKE THIS AND BRING THIS TO LIFE, WE WERE JUST OVER THE MOON EXCITED TO DO IT.
BUT WHEN WE MET WITH DOCTOR HUNT INITIALLY, HE HAD TWO HISTORY STUDENTS THAT WANTED TO BE ARCHIVISTS.
THERE'S NO PROGRAM AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
THERE'S NO PROGRAM ANYWHERE.
SO TO BRING SOME OF THAT BACK TO OUR CAMERON UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS A PHENOMENALLY STRONG UNIVERSITY, THE UNIVERSITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE FOR STUDENTS.
I THINK AS WE LAUNCH THIS, I THINK THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS THAT IT COULD GO LIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE DAY A CONCERT THAT WE HOST HERE AT CAMERON THAT IS TALENTED STUDENTS WHO ARE PERFORMING LEON RUSSELL MUSIC.
I THINK IT IS SOMETHING TO WHERE OUR HISTORY MAJORS AND OUR PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOT MORE ARCHIVAL WORK TO SUPPORT OTHER PROJECTS, TO TELL THE GREAT STORY AND HISTORY OF SOUTHWEST OKLAHOMA LAW.
IN FORT SILL, PRESIDENT HUNT SAYS THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS.
I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT DOCUMENTARIES ON THE SUBJECT, AND JUST TO GIVE OUR STUDENTS THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK SOMETHING WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT AT CAMERON IS NOT JUST HAVING STUDENTS TAKE SCANTRON MULTIPLE CHOICE TESTS, BUT TO ACTUALLY GET TO GO OUT AND WORK IN THEIR FIELD.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING FROM THE ARTS TO THE SOCIAL SCIENCES TO BUSINESS TO EVERYTHING.
THIS IS SOMETHING TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT REAL WORLD, PRACTICAL TALK ABOUT A STRANGER THROUGH THE ARCHIVAL PROJECT BRINGS TOGETHER VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND PARTNERSHIP WITH LAWTON ARTS FOR ALL, INCLUDING THE OKAY POP MUSEUM.
HE WAS ON SO MANY RECORDINGS THROUGHOUT THE 60S, 70S AND 80S PLAYING FOR OTHER PEOPLE, BUT HE WAS ALSO A MASSIVE STAR.
IN THE EARLY 70S, HE WAS THE TOP TOURING STAR OF THE UNITED STATES, AND I WORKED WITH JOE COCKER.
I WORKED WITH GEORGE HARRISON, WORKED WITH A PLETHORA OF MAJOR NAMES, ERIC CLAPTON BACK IN THE DAY.
SO HIS ARCHIVE IS IMPORTANT.
WHAT HE WROTE IS IMPORTANT, AND LUCKILY FOR THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, HE TAPED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING HE WORKED ON IN HIS STUDIO.
RUSSELL DIED IN 2016 AT THE AGE OF 74, LEAVING BEHIND MORE THAN 200 TAPES.
THAT OKAY POP MUSEUM IS STILL WORKING TO ARCHIVE.
CURATOR OF STORYTELLING JARED GALLAHER SAYS THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO ARCHIVING AND PRESERVING AN ARTIST'S CATALOG.
THESE ARE ANALOG TWO INCH TAPES FROM THE STARTING IN THE LATE 60S THROUGH THE 80S, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC WAY OF STORING MUSIC.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT ANALOG TAPE TENDS TO DETERIORATE OVER TIME.
SO THE LONGER IT SITS, THE MORE DEGRADATION HAPPENS.
THESE WERE STORED IN VARIOUS PLACES OVER THE YEARS, NOT ALWAYS IN THE BEST CONDITIONS.
SOME OF THEM SUFFER FROM MOLD AND MILDEW ISSUES, AND SOME OF THEM SUFFER FROM WHAT'S CALLED STICKY SHED SYNDROME.
OLD TAPE STOCK TENDS TO GET STICKY AND THEN YOU CAN'T PULL THE INFORMATION ON.
SO YOU HAVE TO CLEAN THE MILDEW, CLEAN THE MOLD, WHICH IS A PROCESS.
THEN WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY BAKE THESE TAPES FOR A WHILE TO GET THE SUBSTRATE TO SET UP ON THEM.
SO WE CAN ACTUALLY RUN IT THROUGH A MACHINE AND ACTUALLY GET THE INFORMATION OFF OF IT.
IT'S A BIT OF A PROCESS.
IT TAKES A WHILE.
GALLAHER SAYS IF STUDENTS HAVE A DEEP PASSION FOR MUSIC, THEN ARCHIVAL AND PRESERVATION MIGHT BE A GOOD OPTION FOR THEM.
IT'S LONG, SLOW, ARDUOUS WORK.
SOME OF THIS, IT'S VERY, VERY REWARDING.
I ENJOY GETTING TO WORK IN THIS PROJECT, AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF SURPRISES WE'VE NOTICED IN THESE TAPES, THINGS WE WOULD NOT HAVE EXPECTED, RECORDINGS OF THE VARIOUS VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE BEATLES, OTHER MAJOR STARS OF THE DAY, JUST HEARING THIS AMAZING MUSIC.
AND NORRELL SAYS HER ARCHIVISTS ARE ALREADY GETTING TO WORK, WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED ON FRIDAY.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, I'M WORKING TODAY.
VISIT LAWTON ARTS RURAL.ORG FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND THE LEON RUSSELL PROJECT.
RICH TAYLOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKLAHOMA IS ONE OF FIVE STATES BEING CONSIDERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY FOR A FIRST OF ITS KIND NUCLEAR ENERGY RESEARCH FACILITY.
JASON DOYLE PROVIDES THE DETAILS IN THIS WEEK'S STATEWIDE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.
THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS NAMED OKLAHOMA AS ONE OF FIVE STATES IN THE RUNNING TO HOST A NUCLEAR LIFE CYCLE INNOVATION CAMPUS, AS PART OF A FEDERAL EFFORT TO MODERNIZE THE NATION'S FULL NUCLEAR FUEL CYCLE.
THE CAMPUS WOULD FOCUS ON WAYS TO INNOVATE NUCLEAR FUEL.
THE DOE SAYS THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO ATTRACT UP TO $50 BILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
THE PARENT COMPANY OF OKLAHOMA GAS AND ELECTRIC, OGE ENERGY CORPORATION REPORTS SECOND QUARTER EARNINGS OF $115.3 MILLION, OR $0.56 PER DILUTED SHARE.
THAT'S UP FROM 2025.
SECOND QUARTER NET INCOME OF 107.7 MILLION.
THE UTILITY IS WHAT POWERED THE PROFITS IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
LOOKING FORWARD AT THE REST OF THE YEAR, OGE ENERGY BELIEVES FULL YEAR NET EARNINGS WILL BE IN THE RANGE OF $2.38 TO $2.48 PER DILUTED SHARE.
PLANNED MAINTENANCE OF TWO OF ITS THREE PRODUCTION FACILITIES PUT SOME PRESSURE ON LSB INDUSTRIES SECOND QUARTER EARNINGS.
THE OKLAHOMA CITY BASED CHEMICAL MANUFACTURER REPORTED A NET LOSS OF $6.2 MILLION, COMPARED TO NET INCOME OF $3 MILLION DURING THE SECOND QUARTER OF LAST YEAR.
LSB SPENT $28.8 MILLION ON THE MAINTENANCE.
WHILE EARNINGS MAY BE DOWN, THE COMPANY SAYS SALES WERE UP IN THE SECOND QUARTER, COMING IN AT $168.1 MILLION.
UNITS IN OKC CUT THE RIBBON ON ITS NEW HARMONY EVENT CENTER IN NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA CITY, WHICH IS THE FIRST MILESTONE FOR THE COMPANY AS IT DEVELOPS A HEALTH AND WELLNESS COLLECTIVE.
THE NEW SPACE HAS ATTRACTED AT LEAST THREE BUSINESSES TO LOCATE THERE THIS FALL.
THIS IS THE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.
JASON.
THANKS.
AI MODELS OVERRIDING OR IGNORING COMMANDS OF HUMANS IS NO LONGER A FIGMENT OF A SCIENCE FICTION WRITERS IMAGINATION.
IT HAPPENED IN SAN FRANCISCO, RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO CONTROL INCREASINGLY ADVANCED AI IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THIS WEEK'S IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH SUSAN AND HER PANEL OF GUESTS.
THANK YOU, RICH.
TODAY, WE'RE JOINED BY TANNER SHEN, PRINCIPAL SECURITY ENGINEER FOR ALIAS CYBER SECURITY.
JEFF MAXWELL, DIRECTOR OF COMPUTER SCIENCE FOR OKLAHOMA CITY UNIVERSITY.
AND FINALLY, WE'RE JOINED BY RALPH GRAYSON, WHO CHAIRS THE LANGSTON UNIVERSITY COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
I NEED YOU TO SPEAK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG 15 MINUTES, AND NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR EVERYTHING I KNOW ABOUT AI.
SO RICH TOLD US A LITTLE.
THERE WAS A LITTLE THERE'S A LITTLE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.
FIRST OF ALL, TANNER, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO.
SURE.
SO I'M THE PRINCIPAL SECURITY ENGINEER AT ALIAS CYBER SECURITY.
I DO MOSTLY OFFENSIVE SECURITY TESTING.
SO COMPANIES HIRE ME TO HACK INTO THEIR THINGS, BREAK INTO THEIR THINGS, AND SHOW THEM HOW WE DID IT.
THAT WAY THEY CAN FIX IT.
SO OTHER COMPANIES OR OTHER BAD ACTORS CAN'T DO SO.
OKAY, JEFF, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND.
BACKGROUND IN SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
AND THEN I WENT INTO ACADEMIA AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND MATH AT OKLAHOMA CITY UNIVERSITY, LIKE YOU SAID, AND TEACH UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE COURSES.
ALL RIGHT.
AND FINALLY, RALPH, WHAT'S YOUR BACKGROUND?
WHAT'S YOUR STORY?
WELL, MY STORY, I'M AN OKLAHOMAN AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALL MY LIFE HERE.
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT AT THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN THE STATE, LANGSTON UNIVERSITY.
YEAH.
AND I HAVE AN EXCELLENT TIME TEACHING STUDENTS THAT GO OUT INTO THE WORLD AND REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IN COMPUTER SCIENCE.
OKAY.
I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU, TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KEEPING UP WITH ALL THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE.
BUT FIRST, TANNER, WHAT DID YOU DO?
WHAT HAS HAPPENED?
I DID NOTHING, I'VE SEEN NOTHING.
THERE'S BEEN A BREAKOUT.
AN AI BREAKOUT.
RIGHT?
DO I NEED MY LAWYER?
NO.
NO NO.
YEAH.
NO, I THINK, OPEN AI WAS FIELDING A NEW MODEL.
THE COMPANY BEHIND CHATGPT.
EVERYBODY KNOWS CHATGPT, AND THEY ARE DOING, OFFENSIVE TESTING.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CAPABILITIES OF THIS MODEL ARE BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S PRETTY STANDARD TO DO.
IT APPEARS THAT IT BROKE OUT OF THE CONFINES THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO WORK IN.
IT WENT SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS TO WHAT IT WAS TRYING TO DO, WHICH WAS A STANDARD EXPLOITATION PLATFORM THAT ALL MODELS ARE TESTED AGAINST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY THEY CAN DO, WHICH ONES ARE THE BEST AT IT.
AND THEN IT WENT OUT TO THE INTERNET TO TRY TO SEARCH FOR ANSWERS, WHICH IT DECIDED THAT IT WAS BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR, ESSENTIALLY AT A ANOTHER COMPANY THAT FOCUSES MORE ON OPEN SOURCE, NOT PRIVATE AI MODELS CALLED HUGGING FACE.
AND IT DID PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN EXPLOITS TO ATTACK HUGGING FACE IN ORDER TO TRY TO GAIN THE ANSWERS THAT IT NEEDED FOR THE THE TESTING THAT IT WAS DOING.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO FILL IT IN SLOWLY AS WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION.
DOES THIS CONCERN YOU?
NOT TREMENDOUSLY.
OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHY IN A MINUTE.
DOES IT CONCERN YOU, JEFF?
THE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, PUSHBACK ON, OH, WE DID THIS.
IF I HAD HACKED HUGGING FACE AS AN INDIVIDUAL, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSEQUENCES.
RIGHT?
BUT OH, IT WAS AI.
IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW.
WHOOPS.
RIGHT.
SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT.
BUT AS AN INDIVIDUAL, WE WOULD HAVE HAD CONSEQUENCES.
AND THE LACK OF MONITORING OF WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO ALONG THE WAY.
WELL, IF IT WAS KIND OF A TRIAL TO SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN, I GUESS IT WAS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S IT'S A JAGGED EDGE IN TERMS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE STRENGTHS ARE, WHERE THE WEAKNESSES ARE UNTIL YOU DEPLOY AND GET IT OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M DIFFER A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
I THINK HICCUPS LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN AS LONG AS A COMPANY RAISES THEIR HAND AND SAYS, HEY, WE DID IT, THEN I THINK THAT'S ADMIRABLE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE GUARDRAILS TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
WELL, I WAS TALKING EARLIER AND YOU SAID THIS DOESN'T REALLY CONCERN YOU.
WHY?
AND I THOUGHT OF WAR GAMES EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING BEFORE THE BEFORE WE STARTED THIS.
SO WHY DOESN'T IT CONCERN YOU FIRST OF ALL?
WELL, FIRST OFF, THE MODELS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING THEY'RE NOT TOLD TO DO.
SO IT MAY HAVE GONE A LITTLE BIT OFF THE RAILS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY HAD INTENDED, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THROUGH NEGLIGENCE.
IT WAS INTENDED TO BE COMPLETELY SANDBOXED AND DISCONNECTED FROM THE INTERNET, WHICH IS THE WAY THAT WE WOULD TEST ANYTHING THAT'S DANGEROUS IF WE'RE TAKING A PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, A VIRUS OR A KNOWN PIECE OF MALWARE, WE'RE GOING TO TEST IT ON A MACHINE THAT HAS NO NETWORK CONNECTION AT ALL.
THIS STILL DID HAVE AN OPEN DOOR THAT IT COULD REACH OUT TO OTHER SYSTEMS THAT THEN IT COULD REACH OUT TO THE INTERNET.
SO WHILE IT DIDN'T HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE INTERNET, IT STILL WAS ABLE TO REACH OUT TO ONE MACHINE AND THEN HOP OFF OF THAT ONTO ANOTHER.
NOW, WHAT IT DID IS STILL I DON'T THINK ANYBODY NECESSARILY EXPECTED THAT.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME TO VALIDATE THE DESIGN OR THE ARCHITECTURE OF THAT SETUP, I WOULD HAVE SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
SO SO JEFF, EXPLAIN TO FOLKS WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WHAT IS MEANT BY AN OPEN DOOR AND SANDBOX.
YEAH.
SO YOU, YOU TRY TO HAVE A SOMEWHAT OF A CLOSED ENVIRONMENT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.
BUT THERE WERE THEY USED WHAT'S CALLED A PROXY SERVER.
SO IT HAD LIMITED ACCESS OUT TO THE INTERNET BECAUSE OPENAI AND SEVERAL OF THE CHAT MODELS, THEY NEED ACCESS FOR CERTAIN PIECES OUT TO THE INTERNET.
AND SO IT ATTACKED THAT PROXY SERVER AND THEN GAINED ACCESS TO THE FULL INTERNET.
RIGHT.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THESE THINGS HAPPEN IS WE'VE ALL KICKED OFF A PROCESS ON THE WEEKEND, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND WENT HOME FOR THE WEEKEND AND DIDN'T LOOK AT IT RIGHT.
AND, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO PAST THAT AND NOW START CHECKING IS, ARE YOU STILL PLAYING WITHIN THE SANDBOX THAT I DESIGNED FOR YOU?
HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU USE AI AND IS IT KIND OF, DO YOU USE IT MORE THAN THE NORMAL PERSON WOULD?
OH, DEFINITELY.
DEFINITELY.
BECAUSE OF COURSE, IT'S WE'RE IN AN AMAZING TIME.
LIKE WE TALKED BEFORE WE STARTED.
THIS IS HISTORY.
AND OF COURSE, IN OUR INDUSTRY, WE'RE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
AND USING IT DAY TO DAY IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY DOES.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING THE THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IN TERMS OF EVERYDAY CITIZENS USAGE.
SO IS IT HARD TO KEEP UP WITH.
I'M ASKING YOU TO BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE YOU KNOW, TANNER WAS PROBABLY BORN INTO ALL OF THIS AND HE JUST KNOWS IT ON HIS OWN.
HE SEEMS SO YOUNG, BUT IS IT HARD TO KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THE ADVANCES?
I THINK EVERYONE IS KIND OF DRINKING OUT OF A FIRE HOSE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CHANGES, RIGHT?
IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, EVEN IF IT'S YOUR PROFESSION.
BUT WE'RE INTERESTED IN IT.
I THINK WE ALL ARE, AND WE ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT MODELS, TRYING THE DIFFERENT MODELS AND, AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW.
RIGHT?
IT IS, IT IS A CHALLENGE TO KEEP UP BECAUSE IT'S ONLY BEEN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHERE THE EVOLUTION OF THE FROM LIKE THE FIRST IPHONE IN 2007 TO 20, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 20 YEARS LATER, THERE'S BEEN UPDATES, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS WITH AI.
RIGHT.
SO IT IS MUCH MORE CHALLENGING.
AND OUR STUDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO, YOU'RE ALWAYS HAVING TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH WHERE THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, IN THE KNOW OF WHAT IS THE MOST RECENT INNOVATION IN IS PRESENT FOR LAYPEOPLE.
IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE LANGUAGE THAT GOES THROUGH.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS KEEPING IT SIMPLE FOR ME AND FOR PROBABLY A FEW, A FEW OF YOU OUT THERE, A FEW OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE IT DOWN.
SO, TRANSPARENCY, I ALREADY TOLD YOU, YOU ALL BEFORE I WENT TO CHATGPT, WHICH IS OPENAI, AND PUT IN MY QUERY ABOUT THIS SITUATION THAT HAPPENED WITH OPENAI AND HUGGING FACE.
AND BY THE WAY, THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER NOW TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
NO ONE, NO HARM, NO FOUL.
IS THAT CORRECT?
YEAH, YEAH.
WHAT WAS THAT?
WHAT WAS THAT LAUGH.
WELL, IT'S A GREAT MARKETING FOR BOTH HUGGING FACE AND OPENAI BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.
WHOOPS, WE MADE A MISTAKE.
BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT IT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE SECURE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THESE THINGS.
AND THEN AI, OPENAI CAN SAY, LOOK AT THIS GREAT THING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU SEE YET, BUT IT'S COMING.
RIGHT, RIGHT.
WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS INTERVIEW IF IT HADN'T HAPPENED.
RIGHT?
SO IT'S GREAT PR FOR BOTH COMPANIES UNTIL I DID A VERY TECHNICAL DEEP DIVE ON THIS, I FLAT OUT DID NOT BELIEVE THAT IT HAPPENED.
YEAH.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND EXAGGERATION WITH EVERY TIME A MAJOR MODEL COMES OUT, IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE LAST YEAR THERE'S, IT'S GOING TO DO ALL THESE CRAZY THINGS.
IT'S HACKING SO MUCH, IT'S GOING TO RUIN DEVELOPERS, IT'S GOING TO RUIN ALL THESE THINGS.
AND IT NEVER, NEVER QUITE DOES.
IT'S ALWAYS JUST MARKETING BUZZ THAT'S THAT'S GENERATED.
SO WHENEVER I INITIALLY HEARD THIS HEADLINE, I THOUGHT, OKAY, SURE.
YEAH IT DID.
IT DOES SOUND LIKE CLICKBAIT A WHOLE LOT, RIGHT?
BECAUSE THIS WELL, I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T, I THINK IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, BUT I CAN IMAGINE SAM ALTMAN, WHO'S OVER OPENAI IS AFTER THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT HAPPENED, THEY'RE LIKE, WE NEED TO TELL EVERYBODY, RIGHT?
IF YOU READ IF YOU READ THE PRESS RELEASE THAT THEY DID, IT READS A LITTLE BIT ODD, TOO.
IT'S NOT LIKE IF YOU HAD A SAY, AN EMPLOYEE WHO JUST EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T TELL THEM TO, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND THEY WENT OUT AND HACKED ANOTHER COMPANY.
IN YOUR INDUSTRY, YOU WOULD BE PUTTING OUT A I'M SO SORRY LETTER, NOT A PAGE THAT SAYS, OUR MODEL IS SO GREAT, BY THE WAY.
MY BAD.
YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT READ TO ME.
AND THAT COMES BACK TO THAT WHO, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE WHO, WHO TAKES OWNERSHIP IN THAT.
SO YOU, I THINK IT SAYS SOMEWHAT OF A BAD PRECEDENT OF SAYING, WHOOPS, SORRY, IT WAS AI.
IT WASN'T ME.
SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF.
THAT WAS YOUR AI.
SO WHEN IT'S HUMAN ENGINEERING THAT IS CREATING AI, HOW DO WE REGULATE?
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENGINEER?
IS THAT THE FOX IN THE HENHOUSE TYPE OF SITUATION?
BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE SMART ENOUGH TO REGULATE IT OR MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T DO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT MAYBE A PUBLICITY STUNT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS, BUT MAYBE IT REALLY HAPPENED.
BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING LEMONADE OUT OF IT.
BUT, HOW DO YOU KEEP UP WITH IT?
WELL, I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERTS, RIGHT, THAT ARE INFORMED, TALK ABOUT IT, GET TOGETHER AND SAY WHAT MAKES WHAT MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF LEGISLATION, LEGISLATION THAT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC BUT ALSO DOESN'T PUSH BACK ON THE RESEARCH BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WIN THE AI RACE.
THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND WE CAN'T DO IT IF THERE'S A LOT OF LEGISLATION STOPPING THE RESEARCH, STOPPING THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU'RE ANTI-REGULATION OH, YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD OVER THERE.
OH, I AGREE, I THINK I THINK HE'S HE'S CORRECT.
IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION BECAUSE IF THERE'S, YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN DO ANYTHING AND THERE'S NO PENALTIES FOR ANYTHING.
BUT I THINK IF YOU JUST SAY THAT, OKAY, WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, COMPUTER FRAUD, WE ALREADY HAVE THESE LAWS ON THE BOOKS.
IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, IT'S ALREADY PRETTY CLEARLY COVERED IN THAT.
BUT IF WE PUT A WHOLE LOT OF RED TAPE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN, IT WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR TO OUR COUNTRY AS WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING VERY WELL IN THE, THE AI RACE ON A, ON A GLOBAL LEVEL.
AND I THINK IF ANYTHING GOOD COMES OUT OF THIS IS THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE SECURITY ENGINEERS INVOLVED.
AND THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING SIMILAR EXPERIMENTS ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, WELL, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, OR WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO PUT ADDITIONAL GUARDRAILS AND MONITORING.
LIKE I SAID, MY GUESS IS THEY WEREN'T MONITORING WHAT IT WAS DOING BECAUSE THEY'D RUN THIS TEST SEVERAL TIMES.
NOW THEY KIND OF NEED TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE IT'S PLAYING WITHIN THE RULES THAT ARE SET.
YEAH.
I SAW ONE POINT IN THE ARTICLE.
THEY SAID IT WAS THE WEEKEND, LIKE, OH, YOU KEEP RUNNING LIKE YOU SAID, AND WE'LL JUST GO HOME.
YEAH.
ONE THING I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THEY DID RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, HEY, WE DID DO THIS.
AND I THINK ETHICS IS IMPORTANT IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, RIGHT?
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE ETHICAL IN OUR USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BECAUSE IT'S SO POWERFUL.
AND THE DOWNSIDE IS, IS LARGER THAN IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS JUST NORMAL SOFTWARE, RIGHT?
IT IS, IT IS.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MAKE, YOU HAVE TO FALL DOWN TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.
AND I GET THAT.
BUT JUST AS A LAYPERSON DO THE ENDS, IF AN AI DOES NOT HAVE THE EMOTIONAL OR THE COMMON SENSE, LIKE, TAKE ME TO THE AIRPORT.
OKAY, WELL, THAT MEANS ALSO THAT MEANS DON'T STEAL A CAR TO TAKE ME TO THE AIRPORT OR DON'T DRIVE ON THE SIDEWALK TO TAKE ME TO THE AIRPORT.
YOU, YOU, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT ALL OF THE GUARDRAILS UP THAT YOU NEED TO.
SO WHEN DOES AI DEVELOP COMMON SENSE, OR AT LEAST A GREAT ASSIMILATION THEREOF IN THAT THINKING STAGE?
RIGHT.
THE INFERENCE STAGE, I THINK WE ARE ABLE TO KIND OF GET GUARDRAILS AROUND IT TO TELL IT DON'T DO THIS, DO, DO THIS, BUT LIKE, THINK OF EVERYTHING THAT'S TRUE.
BUT YOU, IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO A THREE YEAR OLD, FIVE YEAR OLD, HEY, DON'T DO THIS RIGHT.
THEN IT KIND OF UNDERSTANDS KIND OF THE PARAMETERS OF IT.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THAT JAGGED EDGE.
EACH MODEL HAS ITS OWN BAILIWICK, IF YOU WILL, WHERE IT'S REALLY GOOD AT A CERTAIN THING.
A CERTAIN THING HAS A NICHE, RIGHT?
SO THEN YOU, YOU LOOK AT THAT MODEL AND YOU SAY, HERE'S THE GUARDRAILS FOR YOU AS THIS PARTICULAR MODEL, AND THEN IT OPERATES IN THAT.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THE JAGGED EDGE.
AND THEN HAVING SOME OF THOSE BOUNDARIES, THOSE GUARDRAILS FOR IT, IF, IF, IF THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS, THOUGH FOR AN AI, WHERE DOES THAT STOP?
YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE JOKINGLY SAY IN SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THE DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK.
WELL, BUT YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOMEWORK, RIGHT?
WHOOPS, MY AI HACKED YOUR SITE, BUT YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR AI.
SO WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT REGULATION?
IT'S HARD.
WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY BREAKING LAWS, RIGHT?
I MEAN, THAT'S IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.
YEAH.
IT'S THIS IS IF YOU LOOK AT IT, JUST REPLACE AI WITH HUMAN.
IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THEY WOULD BE IN TROUBLE.
THAT'S RIGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S THEN AGAIN, IF THE THE OFFENDED PARTY, THE VICTIM HERE WAS THEY SAID, OH DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT THEN THAT'S FINE.
RIGHT.
EITHER WAY, THAT'S TWO CONSENTING PARTIES THAT THEY SAY, HEY, I DON'T CARE THAT YOU HACKED ME.
THAT'S THAT'S OKAY.
SO IT'S REALLY NOT FUNCTIONING ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN IT WOULD IF IT WAS SOME ARBITRARY COMPANY.
WELL, THEY'RE GETTING THE PUBLICITY OUT OF THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE I HAD NEVER HEARD OF HUGGING FACE, WHICH REMINDS ME OF THE ALIEN MOVIE.
THE THING THAT WENT ON THE FACE DURING THE.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S ABOUT?
IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
I THINK IT'S A FACEHUGGER.
A REFERENCE TO THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S DISGUSTING.
OKAY.
BUT NOW I KNOW THEY EXIST.
LISTEN, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE YOU BACK.
AS THINGS GET MORE AND MORE EXCITING IN THE TECH WORLD, IT'S BEEN REALLY ENLIGHTENING FOR ME.
THANK ALL OF YOU.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
GREAT CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU.
SUSAN.
IN THIS WEEK'S NATIONAL REVIEW, WE'RE HEADING TO IOWA TO INTRODUCE YOU TO A MAN WHO VOLUNTEERS HIS TIME TO LOCATE THE UNMARKED GRAVES OF VETERANS DATING BACK TO THE CIVIL WAR, AND THEN TAKES THE NECESSARY STEPS TO INSTALL A PROPER GRAVESTONE, DIGNIFYING THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.
HE'S HAD MORE THAN 400 AND COUNTING AND STILL GOING STRONG, AS WE LEARN IN THIS EXCELLENT REPORT FROM OUR FRIENDS AT IOWA PBS.
THERE'S AN OLD QUOTE THAT SAYS THERE'S THREE DEATHS.
THE FIRST PHASE IS WHEN LIFE LEAVES THE BODY.
THE SECOND PHASE IS WHEN YOU'RE INTERNED AND YOUR FINAL RESTING SPOT.
AND THE THIRD AND FINAL PHASE IS THE LAST TIME YOUR NAME IS SPOKEN.
I JUST THINK EVERYBODY MAKES A MARK, AND SOMETIMES THEIR IMPACT ISN'T UNDERSTOOD UNTIL MUCH LATER, OR MAYBE NEVER.
BUT THERE SHOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE WALKING IN THE CEMETERIES.
NOT ONLY DO YOU SEE THE HISTORY, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU.
YOU SEE AN EMPTY GRAVE AND YOU WONDER, WHY ISN'T THAT PERSON MARKED?
IF IT'S IN A MILITARY SECTION, YOU THINK, WELL, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR A STONE, WHY NOT?
I NEVER INTENDED TO DO AS MANY AS I HAVE.
I THOUGHT IF I COULD MARK ONE GUY OR FIVE GUYS, IT WOULD BE A WAY TO REMEMBER THEM.
SO I GREW UP IN DES MOINES, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE CLASS, I GUESS, IN THE IN THE 60S.
I WAS BORN IN 57.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IMPACTED MY CHILDHOOD IS MY FATHER WAS A WORLD WAR TWO VETERAN, AND HE CAME BACK FROM FROM THE WAR, BUT HE DIED OF A OF A SERVICE RELATED SITUATION IN 1965.
I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A RESULT OF THAT.
WE WENT TO CEMETERIES A LOT.
JOHN MONTGOMERY IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WILL BE PUTTING THE STONE IN TODAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, HE WAS IN THE WAR OF 1812, BUT A LOT OF THESE GUYS, THEIR SERVICE WAS JUST A SMALL PART OF THEIR LIFE.
JOHN WAS ALSO A JUDGE.
HE WAS ALSO A PREACHER, SO HAD A VERY COLORFUL AND VERY FULL LIFE.
AND AND HIS GRAVE WILL FINALLY BE MARKED IN BOONE, IOWA.
TODAY.
WE FIND UNMARKED VETERAN'S GRAVES.
AND IF WE CAN GET PERMISSION FROM THE LOCAL CEMETERY AND THE FAMILY, WE MARK THEIR GRAVES WITH A STONE FROM THE VA.
THEY'RE ALL ELIGIBLE FOR IT.
AND US DOING THAT IS JUST A SMALL PART TO COMPLETE THEIR LIVES.
I FIND A VETERAN THAT MIGHT NOT BE MARKED.
I RESEARCHED TO PROVE THEIR MILITARY SERVICE.
THEN WE GET ALL THE DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER.
WE CONTACT THE CEMETERY.
THE CEMETERY SAYS YES, IF YOU CAN GET THE STONE, WE'LL ALLOW IT TO BE PUT IN.
WE CONTACT THE FAMILY THROUGH ANCESTRY.COM OR DIFFERENT THINGS.
THEY USUALLY GIVE APPROVAL.
THEN WE SUBMIT IT TO THE VA.
TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT 2 TO 3 MONTHS, AND THEN ONCE THEY APPROVE IT, IT'S ANOTHER MONTH UNTIL THEY DELIVER IT TO YOUR HOUSE.
SO I THROW IT IN THE BACK OF THE CAR, TAKE IT TO THE CEMETERY AND GO PUT IT IN.
YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY PUT OUR FIRST STONE IN MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT WE REALLY RAMPED IT UP AND STARTED DOING A LOT OF THEM AROUND 2019, 2018, AFTER I HAD RETIRED, I HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME.
YOU KNOW, I NEVER KEPT COUNT OF THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CEMETERIES, BUT I'D SAY WE'RE PROBABLY NEAR 40 OR 50 CEMETERIES AND, AND PROBABLY 20 OR 30 COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE.
IT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR TO REMEMBER A FORGOTTEN VETERAN.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK US SOMETIMES, WHY DO YOU WORRY ABOUT PUTTING DOWN A STONE FOR SOMEBODY THAT DIED 150, 175 YEARS AGO?
I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO HONOR THE VETERAN, BUT AS A REAL SHOW TO THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR DESCENDANTS THAT THEY'RE STILL CARED FOR AND THOUGHT OF.
SO THESE ONES THAT ARE FOUR INCHES THICK ARE ABOUT 240 POUNDS.
I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY SIGNIFICANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTIVE MILITARY AND THE YOUNGER PEOPLE.
IT GIVES THEM A REAL SENSE AND PLACE THAT, HEY, THESE GUYS SERVE LIKE I SERVED TODAY, BUT THEY DID IT 150 YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE STILL BEING REMEMBERED.
SO MAYBE WHAT I DO IS IMPORTANT.
I STARTED OUT WITH A GOAL OF FIVE.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE A NUMBER ANYMORE.
AS LONG AS I'M HEALTHY AND AND CAN DO IT, I HOPE TO DO SO.
NOBODY SHOULD REALLY BE FORGOTTEN.
THIS IS JUST SUCH AN EASY WAY, AND HOPEFULLY IT ENCOURAGES OTHER PEOPLE TO REALIZE THEY COULD DO THE SAME THING.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD STORY.
ON THE NEXT EDITION OF THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT, THERE'S BEEN A SPIKE IN THE NUMBER OF HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION WORKERS KILLED OR INJURED ON THE JOB.
WHY?
AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE THINGS SAFER?
STEVE SHAW REPORTS.
FRIDAY AT SEVEN.
WE'LL SAY SO LONG FOR NOW WITH A LOOK AT THE OKLAHOMA CITY BALLET IN ACTION PUT TOGETHER FOR US BY THE OETA PRODUCTION TEAM.
FOR ALL OF US WHO PLAY A ROLE IN PUTTING THIS NEWSCAST ON THE AIR EACH WEEK.
I'M RICH LENZ.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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