EVENING AT SEVEN ON OETA.

IN A DANGEROUS WORLD, OKLAHOMA SEEKS TO ENHANCE ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO THAT MEANS INSIDE YOUR ROOM, LIGHTS OFF DARK AND QUIET, AWAY FROM ANY WINDOWS THAT CAN BE LOOKED IN THROUGH THE DOOR.

A RECAP OF OETA STATE SUPERINTENDENT DEBATE ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

45 YEARS IN SCHOOL BUSINESS.

I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE ON OETA.

I'M HONORED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OKLAHOMANS.

I AM READY TO RESTORE TRUST, RAISE ACHIEVEMENT, AND PUT EDUCATION FIRST IN OKLAHOMA.

PART ONE OF A SPECIAL THREE PART SERIES ON OKLAHOMA SONGWRITING LEGEND JIMMY WEBB.

AND IT SHOWS YOU WHAT SOMEBODY FROM OKLAHOMA CAN DO WHEN THEY PUT THEIR MIND TO IT.

THE COLLECTION OF COURT FEES REMAINS A CONTROVERSIAL PROCESS IN OKLAHOMA.

EVERY NIGHT, EVERY DAY, YOU JUST SIT THERE AND THINK IF YOU DON'T PAY MONEY, THEY CAN PUT YOU BACK IN JAIL.

AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ON NEW LAWS TO COMBAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN OKLAHOMA.

YOU'RE EXHAUSTED AND YOU'RE TIRED AND YOU DON'T SEE A WAY OUT.

AND IT'S EMBARRASSING, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU THERE IS LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

PLUS, ROBOTS MAKING STEM LEARNING FUN FOR STUDENTS.

NEXT ON THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

I'M RICH LENZ.

THE OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE HAS DEDICATED FUNDING TO ALLOW SCHOOLS TO CONDUCT RISK AND VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS EVERY FIVE YEARS IN AN EFFORT TO AVOID ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATIONS ON THEIR CAMPUSES.

NOW, LAWMAKERS ARE INTERESTED IN ENHANCING ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

STEVE SHAW JOINS US NOW WITH MORE ON THAT, STEVE.

RICH.

ON OCTOBER 7TH, STATE REPRESENTATIVE RICK WEST HOSTED AN INTERIM STUDY AT THE STATE CAPITOL.

IT WAS A DEEP DIVE INTO HOW SCHOOLS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE EQUIPPED TO RESPOND TO AN ACTIVE SHOOTER.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

HOW ARE YOU?

WHO IS SHARING THEIR LUNCH WITH ME?

VERY GOOD.

Y'ALL READY FOR YOU?

GUYS?

WANT TO SHARE LUNCH?

WHAT'D YOU BRING ME?

SAINT PHILIP NERI IS ONE OF 18 CATHOLIC SCHOOLS THAT IS OPERATED BY THE ARCHDIOCESE OF OKLAHOMA CITY.

CORKY MCMULLEN IS THE PRINCIPAL HERE.

FIRST THING I NOTICED TRYING TO GET INTO THIS SCHOOL IS THE DOOR WAS LOCKED.

YES, SIR.

YOU GOT TO GET BUZZED IN TO GET IN HERE.

TWO SETS OF DOORS.

THAT'S GOOD.

THE BEST WAY TO GET TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITIES ARE TO DIVE IN.

LIEUTENANT JUSTIN DANG SUPERVISES 13 OKLAHOMA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES WHO ARE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AT SAINT PHILIP, NERI AND OTHER AREA SCHOOLS.

IT'S JUST WE ALL REMEMBER THAT SRO THAT KIND OF TOUCHED OUR LIVES.

WHAT DO YOU FEEL IS THE KEY TO, GOD FORBID, AN ACTIVE SHOOTER COMING INTO THIS SCHOOL?

SO IT'S A RESPONSE TO IT.

YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE THREAT AS SOON AS THEY AS SOON AS YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A THREAT, YOU HAVE TO GET ON IT.

YOU CAN'T SURVIVE THIS.

THERE'S A FEW SIMPLE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.

MIKE FIKE DIRECTS THE OKLAHOMA SCHOOL SECURITY INSTITUTE, OR SSI, WHICH IS A BRANCH OF THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE'RE STATUTORILY MANDATED OR REQUIRED TO DO RISK AND VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS ON EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE STATE.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THAT'S ALSO PUBLIC PRIVATE CHARTER.

CAREER TECHS, ANY SCHOOL THAT ASKS US TO COME AND DO A RISK AND VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, WE WILL DO THAT.

NOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE OFFER THROUGH OSI, THE OKLAHOMA SCHOOL SECURITY INSTITUTE, WE DO AT NO CHARGE.

THIS PAST SPRING, THE OSSI CONDUCTED AN ACTIVE SHOOTER RISK ASSESSMENT AT SAINT PHILIP NERI, WHICH NOW HAS 80 SECURITY CAMERAS.

FIKE SAYS ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING IN OKLAHOMA CHANGED FOREVER.

FOUR YEARS AGO AFTER THE UVALDE, TEXAS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MASSACRE, AN 18 YEAR OLD GUNMAN KILLED 19 STUDENTS AND TWO TEACHERS.

THE INCOMPETENCE DISPLAYED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT DAY WAS TRAGIC.

THERE WAS A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS THEY DID NOT SET UP, SET UP A SUFFICIENT INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.

WHO WAS IN CONTROL?

THEY KNEW THAT THEY SHOULDN'T WAIT, BUT THEY WENT BACK TO THE OLD WAY OF THINKING OF, WELL, WE HAVE A BARRICADED SUBJECT NOW.

EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS SHOOTING CONTINUING TO GO ON, THERE WAS A LOT OF BAD DECISIONS MADE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE THAT THAT WERE RUNNING THEIR ORGANIZATION, BUT NOBODY CAME TOGETHER IN A UNIFIED COMMAND.

ARE YOU INJURED?

I AM, I'VE BEEN SHOT IN THE RIGHT LEG.

IN RESPONSE TO UVALDE, OKLAHOMA, LAW ENFORCEMENT ADOPTED WHAT'S KNOWN AS LAW ENFORCEMENT, ACTIVE SHOOTER, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, OR LASER.

IN OTHER WORDS, EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA IS TRAINED THE SAME WAY WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONDING TO AN ACTIVE SHOOTER.

AND TO DATE, WE'VE TRAINED 7700 OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.

SO IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS, IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

STATE REPRESENTATIVE RICK WEST REPRESENTS MOST OF LEFLORE COUNTY.

HE SAYS HE HOSTED THAT INTERIM STUDY AT THE STATE CAPITOL THREE WEEKS AGO TO IDENTIFY GAPS IN ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE.

A LOT OF THESE RURAL TOWNS, JUST TO SAY, HERE'S WHERE I LIVE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO SPEND TO SEND THREE OF THEIR POLICE OFFICERS FOR THREE DAY TRAINING AND TAKE THEM OUT OF THE CITY OF HEBREW, YOU KNOW?

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DEALT WITH.

WEST SAYS THE STATE LEGISLATURE SHOULD SPEND MONEY TO ALLOW RURAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO TRAVEL WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING.

THAT MONEY WOULD ALSO PAY REPLACEMENT OFFICERS WHILE THE OTHER OFFICERS ARE AWAY.

WE GOT WE GOT TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE.

EVERYBODY'S GOT TO BE TOGETHER ON THIS.

WHERE'S THE IDEA, BUBBA?

HEY, WHERE IS IT?

ALL RIGHT, GO TO THE FRONT OFFICE, GET ONE OVER AT PUTNAM CITY HIGH SCHOOL.

MARK STOUT HAS BEEN THE POLICE CHIEF OF THE PUTNAM CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR TWO DECADES.

HE SAYS THEY ALSO CONSULT WITH THE O. SSI.

WE FEEL VERY POSITIVE ABOUT IT.

IT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR TO REMEMBER WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR AND WHAT WE'RE WHAT OUR TRAINING DICTATES WE DO IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE PROMOTE.

WHENEVER THERE'S AN ACTIVE SHOOTER IN A BUILDING INSIDE THE BUILDING, WE GO ON A LOCKDOWN.

AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN OVER THE INSTANCES OF ACTIVE SHOOTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

LOCKDOWNS WORK.

SO THAT MEANS INSIDE YOUR ROOM, LIGHTS OFF, DARK AND QUIET, AWAY FROM ANY WINDOWS THAT CAN BE LOOKED IN THROUGH THE DOOR.

STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT ACTIVE SHOOTERS COMING INTO A BUILDING, THEY HAVE A MINDSET THAT THEY WANT TO SHOOT SOMEBODY.

IF THEY COME TO A LOCKED DOOR, THEY DON'T SEE ANYBODY.

THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

GOT A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

IF EVERYONE IS TRAINED THE SAME, IF AN ACTIVE SHOOTER EVENT OCCURS AND THE CALL GOES OUT, WE MIGHT VERY WELL JUST HAVE A HAVE A STATE TROOPER THAT'S DRIVING BY.

WE MIGHT HAVE A GAME WARDEN THAT'S DRIVING BY AND OSBI AGENT, WE MIGHT HAVE AN OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICER FROM THAT AREA OR A DEPUTY.

THEY ALL SHOW UP AND THEY'RE ALL TRAINED THE SAME.

AND THIS IS WHAT HELPS US IS THAT SINCE THEY'RE TRAINED THE SAME, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A PLAN.

WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

WELL, LET'S TRY NOT TO HURT ME.

PUTNAM CITY POLICE CHIEF STOUT ALSO SAYS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SHOOT OPEN THE LOCKS ON MODERN CLASSROOM SCHOOL DOORS.

YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE TRAINED TO DO IT, AND ONLY A CERTAIN KIND OF WEAPON WILL DISABLE THE LOCKS ON THOSE DOORS.

RICH.

INTERESTING.

VERY INTERESTING.

WELL, HERE AT OETA, WE HAVE BEEN PROUD TO BRING YOU THREE DEBATES HEADING INTO NEXT TUESDAY'S VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION.

THE ONE AND ONLY GOVERNOR'S DEBATE BETWEEN MIKE MAZZEI AND CYNDI MUNSON, AN INSURANCE COMMISSIONERS DEBATE FEATURING CRAIG MCINTYRE AND BOB SULLIVAN.

AND ON THURSDAY NIGHT, A STATE SUPERINTENDENTS DEBATE MODERATED BY EDUCATION REPORTER TAELYR JACKSON AND MYSELF FEATURING REPUBLICAN DOCTOR ROBERT FRANKLIN AND DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE JENNETTIE MARSHALL, THE OKLAHOMA BOARD OF EDUCATION RECENTLY DOWNGRADED THE ACCREDITATION OF 59 SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR HAVING POOR MATH AND READING SKILLS.

THE STRONG READERS ACT IS NOW BEING IMPLEMENTED IN OKLAHOMA CLASSROOMS.

ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT IT IS GOING TO RAISE LITERACY OUTCOMES?

THE STRONG READERS ACT?

THERE ARE MANY CONCERNS WITH THAT ACT.

THE MERE FACT THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PUNISHING STUDENTS WHO AREN'T READING ON GRADE LEVEL, ONCE IT'S PUT IN PLACE, THAT SUBJECTS STUDENTS TO RETALIATORY TREATMENT FROM THEIR PEERS, BULLYING ALL OF THE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS.

THE TEACHERS.

THEY'RE PUT IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO TRY TO REMEDIATE WITH THOSE STUDENTS AND TEACH, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONALLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO.

I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS TOWARD THAT END.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THE SUPPORT THAT WE PROVIDE FOR OUR EDUCATORS, NOT ABOUT THE LEGISLATION THAT COMES TO US, ALTHOUGH THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THAT PROVIDES A SCAFFOLD WHERE THE REAL DIFFERENCE IS MADE IS WITH THE TEACHERS AND THE CAPACITY BUILDING THAT WE SUPPORT THAT WORK WITH.

AND AGAIN, CLASS SIZE MATTERS.

BEHAVIORAL TECHNICIANS MATTER BECAUSE TEACHERS ARE SAYING, I NEED TO STAY ON TIER ONE INSTRUCTION, BUT I'M STRUGGLING BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY KIDDOS THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR BEHAVIOR AND HOW WE MANAGE THAT EFFECTIVELY.

EARLY VOTING IS UNDERWAY HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

IT WRAPS UP SATURDAY AFTERNOON STATEWIDE AT 2 P.M.

ATTORNEY GENERAL GARDNER DRUMMOND HAS ISSUED AN OPINION STATING THE WINNER OF NEXT TUESDAY'S SENATE RACE BETWEEN REPUBLICAN KEVIN HERN AND DEMOCRAT NIKAYLA JASMINE THOMAS, CAN BE SEATED IMMEDIATELY AND NOT WAIT UNTIL JANUARY.

THAT'S JUST THE LATEST HIGH PROFILE AND SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL DECISION COMING FROM THE AG'S OFFICE.

NOAH MACK JOINS US NOW WITH MORE ON THAT.

YEAH, RICH, FROM THE SWADLEY SAGA TO RELIGIOUS CHARTER SCHOOLS, AG DRUMMOND HAS NOT SHIED AWAY FROM MAKING HIS LEGAL OPINION KNOWN AS DRUMMOND PREPARES TO EXIT OFFICE IN JANUARY.

HE HAS LEFT AN IMPRINT ON THE ROLE.

WHAT DOES HIS LEGACY LOOK LIKE?

THAT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.

I THINK HE'S DOING HIS JOB AS THE STATE'S TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

ATTORNEY GENERAL GENTNER DRUMMOND CONSISTENTLY MAKES LOCAL HEADLINES AS HE INTERVENES IN LEGAL HAPPENINGS ACROSS THE STATE.

HE HAS REALLY HELPED BRING A LOT OF RELIEF TO THE CITIZENS, IS JUST KNOWING THAT SOMEONE IS PAYING ATTENTION.

SOMEONE MIGHT BE WILLING TO STEP IN OR INTERVENE TO HELP CITIZENS WHO FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATION IN SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES.

MOST RECENTLY, HE HAS CALLED FOR JUDGE CINDY TRUONG TO RESIGN, CITING THAT SHE HAS INVITED FRAUDSTERS TO ENTER OKLAHOMA WITH IMPUNITY.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, IN MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS EVER CALLED FOR.

TRUONG IS THE JUDGE IN THE STATE'S CRIMINAL TRIAL AGAINST BRANT SWADLEY, THE RESTAURANT OWNER WHO WAS CONVICTED OF DEFRAUDING THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.

THE JURY HANDED DOWN SENTENCING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TRUONG DID NOT FOLLOW.

THE JURY GIVES RECOMMENDATIONS ON SENTENCING, AND THE JURY'S RECOMMENDATION WAS PRISON.

HIS LEGAL TEAM SAYS DRUMMOND'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE HONORABLE JUDGE TRUONG REPRESENT A COMPLETE DISREGARD FOR THE ROLE OF AN INDEPENDENT, COEQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.

THIS TYPE OF UNPROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL EXEMPLIFIES WHY OKLAHOMANS REJECTED HAVING HIM BE OUR NEXT GOVERNOR.

IT IS UNUSUAL, OU PROFESSOR MELODY ROWLETT BELIEVES THE WAY IN WHICH AG DRUMMOND HAS COMPORTED HIMSELF OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS IS ALSO UNUSUAL.

FOR THE MOST PART, ATTORNEY GENERALS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN IN STEP WITH GOVERNORS.

NOT ALWAYS, BUT THIS IS A WAY THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL DRUMMOND HAS REALLY DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF, FROM TRIBAL GAMING COMPACTS TO RELIGIOUS CHARTER SCHOOLS.

DRUMMOND HAS CLASHED WITH GOVERNOR KEVIN STITT ON MANY OCCASIONS.

ROWLETT SAYS THAT IS A TRUE EXPRESSION OF HOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS DESIGNED.

WE HAVE A PLURAL EXECUTIVE, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS CERTAIN POWERS GO TO DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE.

AND SO IN TERMS OF THE DEFENSE AND THE PROSECUTION OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, THOSE DECISIONS ARE ALL IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.

THE GOVERNOR HAS NO SAY.

RELIGIOUS CHARTER SCHOOLS HAS BEEN A HALLMARK OF DRUMMOND'S TENURE.

HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN BLOCKING THE SAINT ISIDORE CATHOLIC SCHOOL FROM RECEIVING A CHARTER ON THE GROUNDS THAT THE OKLAHOMA CONSTITUTION EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS STATE FUNDS BEING USED TO SUPPORT A RELIGION AND MOST RECENTLY, WHEN JEWISH SCHOOL BEN GAMLA ATTEMPTED TO NAB A CHARTER, DRUMMOND DOLED OUT A FIRM OPINION, A LEGALLY BINDING OPINION, SAYING, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A THIRD.

HEARING.

DRUMMOND'S OPPOSITION TO RELIGIOUS CHARTERS IS AMONG THE MANY ISSUES THAT HAVE PUT HIM AT ODDS WITH HIS PARTY.

I THINK HE'S SETTING AN EXAMPLE FOR A LOT OF LEADERS RIGHT NOW BY STEPPING IN FOR CITIZEN ACTIVISTS LIKE KAYLEE AND DARREN, DRUMMOND'S STYLE IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.

PERSONALLY, I DO HAVE TO GIVE HIM A TIP OF THE CAP.

HIS OFFICE A TIP OF THE CAP.

DARREN BLANCHARD TRAVELS THE STATE ADVOCATING AGAINST HIGH IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS LIKE DATA CENTERS AND THE ENOLA SMELTER PLANT.

AND WHILE HE APPRECIATES DRUMMOND'S INVOLVEMENT IN BOTH THOSE ISSUES, DRUMMOND INTERVENED IN A CASE EVEN CLOSER TO HOME.

YOU NEED TO LEAVE.

I'M DONE WITH THE MIC.

THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU SIR.

CAN I PRESENT MY RECORD?

SIR, YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO LEAVE.

IN MY SITUATION, I WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE CHARGED $17,000 FOR RECORDS RELATED TO A TRESPASSING ARREST IN CLAREMORE AT A PUBLIC MEETING.

I SAID I DON'T WANT GRAMS ARRESTING.

FORTUNATELY, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE STEPPED IN AND SAID, CLAREMORE, NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IN VIOLATION OF STATE STATUTE.

YOU'LL HAND THOSE RECORDS OVER TO MR.

BLANCHARD FOR $0, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAW.

AND SO I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT HIS OFFICE DID THAT FOR ME.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS A MATTER OF THEM FOLLOWING THE LAW.

KALEY BALL, ALSO DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE DATA CENTER ISSUE, HOPES DRUMMOND GOES A STEP FURTHER.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM REALLY SUPPORT AND PUSH FOR A MORATORIUM AROUND THESE HIGH IMPACT PROJECTS BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM PUSH FOR FULL DISCLOSURE FROM THESE PROJECTS.

I SEE HIS LEGACY HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE BY ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE GAPS THAT ARE REALLY BEGUN BEGINNING TO RAISE TO THE SURFACE.

BECAUSE OF THESE HYPERSCALER DEVELOPERS.

WITH AN ELECTION ONLY DAYS AWAY, KALEY IS OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE CHOICES.

WHAT I LOVED ABOUT DRUMMOND WAS HOW SOLUTION FOCUSED HE WAS.

AND I SEE BOTH ECHOLS AND NICK COFFEY TAKING THAT SAME APPROACH ALREADY.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE GREAT POTENTIAL.

AND IF THEY ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE WORK THAT GESSNER HAS STARTED, THE STATE WILL BE IN A BETTER PLACE OVERALL.

ELECTION DAY IS TUESDAY, AND VOTERS WILL DECIDE WHETHER DEMOCRAT NICK COFFEE OR REPUBLICAN JOHN ECHOLS WILL TAKE UP THE MANTLE.

RICH.

NOAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

AND HERE IN OKLAHOMA, THREE NEW LAWS ADDRESSING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TAKE EFFECT ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST.

THAT'S THE FOCUS OF OUR UPCOMING IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION WITH MODERATOR SUNNY LEE AND HER PANEL OF GUESTS.

HERE'S A PREVIEW.

I TURN OFF MY ALARM SYSTEM.

I GO TO LET MY DOG OUT, AND WHEN I TURN AROUND, HE TEASES ME.

HE IS.

HE HAS COME INTO MY HOUSE.

WHEN I LEFT FOR WORK THAT MORNING, HE CUT A HOLE IN THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE INTO MY MASTER BEDROOM TO BYPASS THE SECURITY SYSTEM, AND HE WAITED IN THE HOUSE UNTIL I CAME HOME AND TURNED THE SYSTEM OFF.

I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS AT PLAY THERE.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NORMS ABOUT POWER AND RELATIONSHIPS AND THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

INTERGENERATIONAL TRAUMA IS THE ENVIRONMENT.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE RAISED, DOMESTIC ABUSE OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A LEARNED BEHAVIOR.

THE REST OF THAT CONVERSATION COMING UP LATER IN THIS NEWSCAST, WHEN IT COMES TO COURT FEES, THERE ARE TWO SIGNIFICANT RELATED PROBLEMS.

THEY'RE NOT BEING COLLECTED AT SUFFICIENT RATES BECAUSE TOO OFTEN OFFENDERS CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THEM.

JASON DOYLE JOINS US NOW WITH PROPOSALS TO FIX THAT.

JASON.

RICH, A RECENT REPORT ISSUED BY OKLAHOMANS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM SHOWS THAT FINES THAT ARE LEVIED ARE NOT BEING COLLECTED, AND THAT OKLAHOMANS GOING THROUGH A MOSTLY RURAL COUNTY COURT SYSTEM HAVE TO PAY HIGHER FEES.

I'M A CASE MANAGER FOR THE REENTRY TEAM.

THAT'S JASON PALMER AND HIS JOB AT THE EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENT MINISTRY OR TEAM IS TO HELP PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF PRISON, PREPARE TO RETURN TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.

WE TEACH CLASSES TO GUYS THAT ARE IN CLEARWATER'S CORRECTIONAL CENTER.

WE BRING THEM OVER AND TEACH THEM THREE WEEKS WORTH OF CLASSES ON HOW TO REINTEGRATE INTO LIFE AND EVERYTHING.

PALMER ALSO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH LEAVING PRISON.

HE'S CURRENTLY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE FINES AND FEES HE OWES FOR HIS PAST LEGAL OFFENSES.

I THINK IT WAS IN 2010, I GOT MY FIRST MISDEMEANOR, AND THEN I HAD A COUPLE MISDEMEANORS THROUGHOUT THAT.

THEN IN 2013, I RECEIVED A FELONY.

AND WITH THAT FELONY, I GOT TIME SERVED WITH FOUR YEARS OF SUSPENDED SENTENCE.

THEN IN 2017, I CAUGHT ANOTHER FELONY THAT ADDS UP IN COURT FINES AND FEES.

SO DO YOU MIND SHARING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU OWE?

CLOSE TO 22,000 NOW?

PALMER ISN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO OWES THOSE KINDS OF FINES AND FEES TO THE COURT.

BARTLESVILLE RESIDENT DANIEL COLLEY ALSO OWES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AFTER BEING RELEASED FROM PRISON ALTOGETHER.

TO MY EXPERIENCES, I OWE, I THINK, WASHINGTON COUNTY 26,000 TOTAL.

HE'S TRIED TO GET FINANCIAL RELIEF.

I FILED FOR RULE 8.5 TO HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THAT BURDEN.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF THINGS, BUT SIR, WHEN YOU COME HOME AND YOU'RE STARTING YOUR LIFE OVER, IT'S HARD.

AND THEN EVERY NIGHT, EVERY DAY, YOU JUST SIT THERE AND THINK IF YOU DON'T PAY MONEY, THEY CAN PUT YOU BACK IN JAIL.

WHILE THESE MEN ARE TRYING TO PAY THEIR DUE, NOT EVERYONE CAN OR DOES.

AND OKLAHOMANS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM REPORT FOUND THAT CASES FILED BETWEEN 2022 AND 2025 WERE ASSESSED FINES OF MORE THAN $403 MILLION.

THE ACTUAL AMOUNT COLLECTED $81 MILLION, MEANING OUT OF EVERY $5 ASSESSED IN FINES.

ONLY $1 IS COLLECTED.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THOSE PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES RE-INCARCERATED BACK INTO A REVOLVING DOOR, DEALING WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.

OKLAHOMANS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MIKE SHELTON SAYS THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE SENT BACK TO JAIL OR PRISON FOR AN INABILITY TO PAY.

THE IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT THE IMPACT ON THE CHILDREN THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL MAY HAVE.

THE THE.

THE IMPACT IS WIDE AND DEEP.

THE REPORT SHOWS RURAL OFFENDERS ARE ASSESSED BIGGER FINES THAN THOSE WHO ARE WITHIN AN URBAN COUNTY COURT SYSTEM.

RURAL FINES AVERAGE A LITTLE LESS THAN $184, AND URBAN COUNTIES.

THE FINES AVERAGE A LITTLE MORE THAN $141.

THAT'S MORE THAN 30% DIFFERENCE IN THE COST OF FINES.

RURAL COURTS OFTEN RELY ON THOSE FEES DUE TO SMALLER TAX BASES.

THE TAX BASES PER CAPITA IN RURAL OKLAHOMA TEND TO BE QUITE A BIT LOWER.

AND ULTIMATELY, FEES ARE JUST A TAX BY ANOTHER NAME WHERE THEY'RE FUNDING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THROUGH THEIR PAYMENT FOR USE OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

OKLAHOMANS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM POLICY COUNSEL MICHAEL OLSON SAYS ONCE A PERSON HAS BEEN RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION, THE FEES CAN MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO STAY OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

IT'S THIS ADDED DEBT ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND AS I SAID, A FEE IS JUST A TAX BY ANOTHER NAME.

AND THIS IS LIKE A REALLY REGRESSIVE TAX THAT'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, IMPOSED ON CRIMINAL DEFENDANTS WHO, AS I MENTIONED, HAPPEN TO BE A LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS.

THAT'S THE CASE FOR DANIEL CORLEY, WHO, BECAUSE OF HIS BEST FRIEND, HAS A JOB AS AN AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIAN BUT IS STILL STRUGGLING TO PAY.

HE DOESN'T WANT TO LOSE HIS SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE.

HE BECAME A GRANDFATHER RIGHT BEFORE HE WAS RELEASED.

SO I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?

WHEN I GO HOME, I'M GOING TO BE A BETTER FATHER, A BETTER MAN, BETTER PAPA.

IF YOU DON'T PAY MONEY, THEY CAN PUT YOU BACK IN JAIL.

THEY CAN SEND YOU BACK TO PRISON.

AND FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME, THAT IS THE SCARIEST THING.

I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK.

AND I KNOW IT'S MONEY.

IF I HAD THE MONEY, I WOULD GIVE IT TO HIM.

A LAW PASSED IN 2023 GIVES JUDGES THE ABILITY TO WAIVE FINES AND FEES IF THEY FIND A PERSON CANNOT PAY.

HOWEVER, OKLAHOMA COUNTY JUDGE APRIL COLLINS HAS CALLED THE LAW UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ACCORDING TO REPORTING BY THE FRONTIER AND KOSU.

SHE REFUSES TO WAIVE FEES EVEN IF A PERSON PROVES THEY CANNOT AFFORD THEM.

THE OKLAHOMA SUPREME COURT IS NOW CONSIDERING THAT CASE, WHICH COULD HAVE WIDE RANGING IMPACTS ON DEBT FORGIVENESS BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

OKLAHOMANS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AS A HANDFUL OF POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER END DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSIONS DUE TO UNPAID COURT FEES.

RESTRICT TRAFFIC STOPS THAT AREN'T SAFETY RELATED, CAP THE RELIANCE ON FINES AND FEES, AND REDIRECT ANY EXTRA PROCEEDS TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND END ARREST WARRANTS BASED ON UNPAID COURT COSTS.

THE ORGANIZATION'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FEELS REFORMING THE COURT FINE AND FEE SYSTEM WILL MAKE OKLAHOMA STRONGER.

THOSE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO WASH THEIR HANDS OF THOSE FEES AND GETTING BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE, NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT FINES AND FEES, MAKE STRONGER FAMILIES, MAKE STRONGER COMMUNITIES.

AND AND IT JUST MAKES A STRONGER OKLAHOMA.

THE REPORT ALSO FOUND OKLAHOMA ISN'T ALONE IN HAVING DIFFICULTY COLLECTING ASSESSED FEES.

MANY STATES ONLY COLLECT AROUND 20% OF THEM.

RICH.

JASON.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THERE'S POSITIVE NEWS FOR THUNDER STAR JALEN WILLIAMS, WHO BROKE HIS LEG IN BADLY DISLOCATED HIS ANKLE IN LAST SUNDAY'S GAME AGAINST THE CLIPPERS.

OTHER NBA PLAYERS, NOTABLY PAUL GEORGE AND GORDON HAYWARD, HAVE COME BACK FROM SIMILAR GRUESOME INJURIES.

NOW, THE BAD NEWS FOLLOWING SURGERY, WILLIAMS WILL NEED 8 TO 12 MONTHS OF INTENSE REHABILITATION BEFORE HE RETURNS.

AND TO LITERALLY ADD INSULT TO INJURY, THE THUNDER ALSO LOST STARTER CASON WALLACE TO A SEASON ENDING SHOULDER INJURY IN THE SAME GAME.

DUB IS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS.

I MEAN, HE'S AS TOUGH AS THEY COME.

HE'S AN ELITE COMPETITOR AND WAS YOU KNOW EVEN LAST NIGHT JUST MIRACULOUS IN TERMS OF HIS OUTLOOK AND THE WAY HE'S HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO ATTACKING THIS.

AND YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH HIM, YOU KNOW THE ENTIRE WAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN HE JUST LOVES PLAYING.

HE LOVES THE COMPETITION.

THAT'S WHO HE IS.

I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND HE'LL BE BACK AND HE'LL BE BETTER THAN HE WAS BEFORE.

JUST LIKE HOW HE HANDLED THE LAST COUPLE INJURIES.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE HIS HIS LUCK SO FAR, BUT HE'S EQUIPPED FOR IT.

HE'S A HE'S A WARRIOR.

AND HE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.

LAST YEAR, WILLIAMS MISSED 49 GAMES WITH THE WRIST AND HAMSTRING INJURIES.

JIMMY WEBB, AMERICAN SONGWRITER, WILL DEBUT HERE ON OETA IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THIS NEWSCAST ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30TH AT 8 P.M.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

THE SPECIAL IS BUILT AROUND A CONCERT THAT WEBB RECORDED AT THE MCKNIGHT CENTER IN STILLWATER A FEW MONTHS AGO AND FEATURES VINCE GILL, LYLE LOVETT AND OTHERS.

NOW, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, WEBB IS A MEMBER OF THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME, AND HE WROTE WICHITA LINEMAN, GALVESTON AND SEVERAL OTHER HUGE HITS.

WE HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN FOR A LENGTHY AND ILLUMINATING INTERVIEW A WEEK AGO, AND THERE WAS SO MUCH GREAT MATERIAL THAT WE'VE DECIDED TO BREAK THAT CONVERSATION UP INTO THREE PARTS.

A DEEP DIVE INTO HIS GREATEST SONG, WICHITA LINEMAN.

THAT'S PART THREE, AIRING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

PART TWO JIMMY WEBB, THE SONGWRITER.

HIS TRIUMPHS AND STRUGGLES STARTING OUT.

THAT AIRS ON NOVEMBER 6TH AND WE BEGIN TODAY WITH PART ONE.

JIMMY WEBB THE OKLAHOMAN.

JAMES LAYNE WEBB WAS BORN 80 YEARS AGO ON AUGUST 15TH, 1946, IN ELK CITY, OKLAHOMA, THE OLDEST OF SEVEN CHILDREN AND THE SON OF A BAPTIST MINISTER.

IN WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN, WHERE YOU GREW UP IN OKLAHOMA, DOES THAT INFORM YOU MUSICALLY OR LYRICALLY AS YOU LOOK BACK ON SOME OF THESE SONGS?

YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY INSEPARABLE.

YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS RAISED IN THE CHURCH, TRAINED IN THE CHURCH, AND A LOT OF MY SONGS, WHETHER, WHETHER YOU, YOU'RE AWARE OF IT OR NOT, THEY'RE ROOTED IN HIM.

HYMNOLOGY, YOU KNOW.

AND THEY'RE PASSING THE PLATE, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH TO THAT.

I MET A WONDERFUL TEACHER HERE IN OKLAHOMA CITY NAMED SUSAN GODDARD.

AND WHEN SHE, SHE TAUGHT ME PIANO ARRANGING AND, AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF MY CREATIVITY, REALLY, BECAUSE THEN I WOULD BE DOING.

HIS BURGEONING TALENT EVENTUALLY LANDED HIM WORK AS AN IN-HOUSE COMPOSER IN LOS ANGELES.

AND IN 1967 HE WROTE UP, UP AND AWAY FOR THE FIFTH DIMENSION AND TOOK HOME HIS FIRST GRAMMY FOR SONG OF THE YEAR.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO WRITE IN MY BEAUTIFUL BALLOON?

HE WAS 21 YEARS OLD, ALMOST 60 YEARS, TWO MORE GRAMMYS AND AN INDUCTION INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME.

LATER, WEBB HAS RETURNED TO HIS HOME STATE TO PROMOTE A 90 MINUTE SPECIAL ON PBS THAT CHRONICLES HIS ICONIC CAREER.

WEBB ATTENDED OETA PRE-SCREENINGS OF JIMMY WEBB, AMERICAN SONGWRITER IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND TULSA.

ONE OF THE ATTENDEES IN OKC WAS BILL MCCLOUD.

WHEN WE HAD GUARD DUTY IN MY EARLY ARMY DAYS, IT GAVE ME SOMETHING TO DO.

I WOULD JUST RECITE HIS SONGS TO MYSELF BECAUSE IT'S JUST ME ON GUARD DUTY, AND THEY BROUGHT ME SUCH COMFORT.

AND THEN WHEN I WENT TO VIETNAM, HIS MUSIC WAS VERY SPECIAL, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND GALVESTON.

GALVESTON CAME OUT WHEN I HAD ONE MONTH LEFT IN VIETNAM.

SO IT IT'S IT'S WHAT PULLED ME BACK HOME AT GALVESTON.

AND THE WARMTH, THE WARMTH OF THE PEOPLE HERE CAN.

YOU CAN'T BE CAN'T BE OVERESTIMATED.

THERE'S JUST WALKING INTO THE STUDIO HERE TODAY, LATE AND.

GETTING THE WELCOME THAT I GOT HERE AND SEEING THIS BEAUTIFUL GRAND PIANO WAITING FOR ME.

NO, I MEAN, I LOVE I LOVE BEING HERE, JIMMY SAYS.

HE FELT THAT SAME WARMTH AND CONNECTION THE NIGHT HE RECORDED THE CONCERT, FEATURED IN THE SPECIAL AT THE MCKNIGHT CENTER IN STILLWATER.

JIMMY.

WELL, I GIVE THEM WHAT I WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER WHEN I COME TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE TABLE.

AND THEN IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT THEY GIVE BACK IF THEY GIVE BACK A LOT OF ENERGY, A LOT OF POSITIVE ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM.

AND IF THEY LAUGH AT MY STUPID JOKES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IF IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE, IF IT'S A RELATIONSHIP, IT'S LIKE A DATE.

IT REALLY IS LIKE A DATE.

AND IT'S LIKE, WOW, THIS I LOVE THIS CHICK.

YOU KNOW, THIS AUDIENCE IS GREAT.

HE EXPRESSED SIMILAR PRAISE FOR THE VENUE ITSELF.

IT'S LOVELY TO BE HERE AT THE MCKNIGHT CENTER.

THIS IS A STUNNING, STUNNING ACHIEVEMENT.

THIS CONCERT HALL, I FELT LIKE ACOUSTICALLY, THE HALL WAS LIKE ONE OF THE BETTER ONES.

I WOULD COMPARE IT TO CARNEGIE HALL.

FAVORABLY.

AND I'VE PLAYED CARNEGIE HALL, SO I'M NOT JUST GUESSING.

IT WAS A REAL, REAL HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE AND, AND A LUXURY TO TO WORK THERE.

WEBB IS ALSO CELEBRATING THE RELEASE OF HIS FIRST NEW RECORD IN SEVERAL YEARS, YOURS FOR THE TAKING, A COLLECTION OF 13 SONGS THAT HE WROTE YEARS AGO AND REDISCOVERED AND RERECORDED WITH THE HELP OF GRAHAM NASH, MICHAEL MCDONALD AND OTHERS.

I THINK THAT EVERY SONGWRITER LEAVES BEHIND A TRAIL OF MATERIAL THAT IS NOT, FOR SOME REASON, DOES NOT COME TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PUBLIC.

NOW, SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T DESERVE TO ANY ATTENTION.

BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT RULE.

SOME I'LL BE VERY FRANK AND OPEN AND SAY SOME OF THEM HAD BEEN TURNED DOWN, BUT WRONGLY TURNED DOWN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

WEBB AND HIS WIFE, LAURA SAVINI, LIVE IN NEW YORK THESE DAYS, NOT IN THE CITY, BUT A PLACE THAT FEELS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE HIS ROOTS.

BUT WE LIVE IN AN AREA THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE OKLAHOMA.

IT'S A SMALL TOWN WITH ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT POST OFFICE, AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY I REALIZE THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE IT.

HAS OKLAHOMA GOTTEN ITS DUE IN TERMS OF THE MUSICIANS AND THE MUSIC THAT'S BEEN PRODUCED HERE?

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IT'S SUCH AN AMAZING LIST OF NAMES AND SONGS AND PERFORMERS AND DIFFERENT GENRES.

WELL, IN A WORD, NO.

HERE'S A PARTIAL LIST.

WOODY GUTHRIE, ROGER MILLER, BOB WILLS, BLAKE SHELTON, REBA MCENTIRE, WANDA JACKSON, MERLE HAGGARD, GARTH BROOKS, CARRIE UNDERWOOD, TOBY KEITH, VINCE GILL, GENE AUTRY, ROY CLARK, J.J.

CALE, LEON RUSSELL AND, WELL, YOU GET THE IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN HAVE ANY MORE STARS COMING OUT.

I MEAN, I THINK OKLAHOMA RANKS UP THERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TOP.

YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE SHEER NUMBER OF FAMOUS PEOPLE.

YEAH, THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, GOT ON ROUTE 66 AND HEADED WEST AND AND HIT THE BIG TIME.

AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM ELK CITY IS CERTAINLY WORTHY OF INCLUSION ON THAT LIST.

YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THE OKLAHOMA OUT OF THE BOY.

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

NO, NO, I, I LOVE BEING HERE AND HAVING A CHANCE TO, IN A WAY, SHOW OFF AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I WROTE ALL THIS STUFF.

YOU KNOW, I CAME FROM HERE, BUT I WENT TO LA AND I WROTE ALL THIS STUFF AND HERE IT IS IN A SHOW AND IT'S A GOOD SHOW.

AND IT SHOWS YOU WHAT SOMEBODY FROM OKLAHOMA CAN DO WHEN THEY PUT THEIR MIND TO IT.

I'VE BEEN AWAY.

JIMMY WEBB.

LEARNING IS ALWAYS EASIER WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN DOING IT.

AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN YOU'RE TACKLING DEMANDING SUBJECTS LIKE TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE.

EDUCATION REPORTER TAELYR JACKSON JOINS US NOW WITH MORE ON THAT.

TAELYR.

THAT'S RIGHT.

RICH.

A GROUP OF MORE PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE PUTTING THE SKILLS THEY'VE LEARNED IN CLASS TO THE TEST BY WAY OF THE AFTER SCHOOL COMPETITIVE ROBOTICS PROGRAM AT BRINK JUNIOR HIGH.

SO THESE STUDENTS ARE GEARING UP FOR THEIR NEXT ROBOTICS COMPETITION HELD AT BRINK JUNIOR HIGH.

SO THIS YEAR WE'RE DOING LIKE AN INTAKE, WHICH WILL LIKE, LIKE, WE'LL DRIVE OVER IT AND THEY'LL TAKE IT IN AND LIKE THE END OF THE CATAPULT, LIKE WHERE IT HOLDS IT WILL DROP DOWN INTO IT AND IT'LL JUST FLIP IT OVER TO THE LEVEL 2 OR 3 GOAL.

EIGHTH GRADER EMMA TRAN IS DESCRIBING THE ROBOT HER TEAM IS BUILDING FOR NEXT WEEK.

IT'S LIKE A LOT OF PRACTICING, DRIVING AND LIKE KNOWING HOW TO DRIVE CORRECTLY AND LIKE, LIKE HOW WHERE THE ROBOT WOULD GO AND LIKE, HOW WOULD IT SCORE?

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND THEN SKILLS IN AUTONOMOUS IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT COULD GET A WILD CARD TO STATE.

BRINK WILL HOST 30 TEAMS FROM SCHOOLS FROM THE EASTERN PART OF THE STATE NEXT WEEK.

COACHES AMANDA TYNER AND CRYSTAL DYLAN ARE PUTTING TOGETHER FINAL TOUCHES FOR THE COMPETITION.

GOT SEVERAL HIGH SCHOOL KIDS THAT ARE IN ROBOTICS AT WESTMOOR THAT COME HERE AND THEY WILL.

THEY COME AND THEY HELP THESE KIDS OUT ALL THE TIME.

AND THEY'RE EXCELLENT MENTORS, BUT THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING AND GIVING OF THEIR TIME TO COME BACK AND HELP.

WE HAVE TO WE WE HAVE TO HAVE SPACE.

THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM PARTICIPATES IN VEX ROBOTICS.

THE LEVEL OF X THAT WE DO IS VEX IQ.

IT'S DEVELOPED FOR.

IT CAN BE AS LOW AS SECOND GRADE ALL THE WAY UP TO UP TO EIGHTH GRADE.

IT'S A SYSTEM WHERE THEY USE SNAP TOGETHER PARTS TO CREATE A ROBOT.

VEX IS AN INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION ROBOTICS PLATFORM THAT OFFERS SEVERAL LEVELS OF ROBOTICS, FROM PRE-K TO UNIVERSITY AGE STUDENTS.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONNECT THE ARM?

VEX TEACHES STUDENTS HOW TO DESIGN, BUILD, AND PROGRAM ROBOTS FOR LEARNING AND COMPETITION.

BRINK USES THE CURRICULUM VEX OFFERS FOR ITS STEM CLASSES THAT IS TAUGHT BY ANOTHER INSTRUCTOR.

THE COMPETITIVE PART IS A STUDENT CENTERED PROGRAM WHERE EACH YEAR YOU GET A NEW TASK TO.

A GAME BOARD, AND THE KIDS HAVE TO DEVELOP AND BUILD A ROBOT DESIGN AND BUILD A ROBOT TO COMPLETE IT.

GET AS MANY POINTS AS THEY CAN DOING THE THE GAME FOR THE SEASON, TYNER SAYS.

AT THE END OF EVERY WORLDS COMPETITION, VEX REVEALS THE NEXT YEAR'S CHALLENGE.

STUDENTS SPEND TIME DURING THE SUMMER RESEARCHING AND PREPARING THEIR NEXT DESIGN.

IT MIGHT BE UNSTEADY WHILE YOU DRIVE IN, BUT FOR MY TEAMS, I ALWAYS MAKE THEM.

THEY HAVE TO CREATE THEIR THEIR WHEEL BASE FIRST, AND THEY HAVE TO PUT IT ON PAPER AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT WHAT IT'S DOING AND WHAT EACH PART IS DOING.

AND WHY DID THEY CHOOSE THAT PART?

EIGHTH GRADER LANDON MASON APPRECIATES THAT STUDENTS GET TO TAKE THE LEAD.

OUR COACHES HELP US FROM TIME TO TIME, LIKE GIVE US POINTERS OR TWO.

BUT IT'S REALLY STUDENT LED AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT IT.

LIKE IT'S OUR STUFF ON OUR ROBOT RIGHT NOW.

HIS TEAM IS MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO ENSURE THE ROBOT WILL WORK PROPERLY FOR THE COMPETITION.

WE BASED OUR DESIGN OFF THAT, AND WE CHOSE TO USE A TWO MOTOR LIFT THAT LIFTS THE LIFT.

AND THEN AT THE END IS A PNEUMATIC CLAW.

SO IT'LL PUMP OUT AIR SPINNING INTAKE FLAPS AND PICK UP BEANBAGS.

MASON ENJOYS THE ADRENALINE RUSH HE GETS DURING EACH COMPETITION.

YOU KNOW, YOU GO UP, YOU WORK WITH ANOTHER TEAM, AND YOU TRY TO SCORE THE MOST POINTS.

IT'S REALLY FUN.

I THINK IT'S LIKE IT'S MORE LIKE YOU GET THAT EXCITING FEELING.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PORTIONS OF THE COMPETITION, INCLUDING AN INTERVIEW WITH JUDGES.

PART OF THE COMPETITION IS WHERE THEY JUST USE THEIR OWN ROBOT ON THE BOARD AND GET AS MANY POINTS AS THEY CAN.

AND THEN THERE'S A TEAMWORK PORTION WHERE THEY WORK WITH ANOTHER TEAM THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE EVER WORKED WITH BEFORE, WHERE THEY WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET AS MANY POINTS AS THEY WENT.

TRAN SAYS.

ONE CRITICAL PART OF COMPETITION IS HAVING AN ORGANIZED ENGINEERING NOTEBOOK.

I THINK IT'S LIKE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT TELLS LIKE THE JUDGES, LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

LIKE YOUR DESIGN PROCESS WHEN THEY'RE NOT INTERVIEWING YOU SO THEY CAN LIKE CHECK WHAT YOU'RE DOING BRINGS ROBOTICS HAS FIVE TEAMS THAT WILL BE COMPETING, EACH MADE UP OF BOTH SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADERS.

NEWCOMER IVY MARTINEZ GUERRERO SAYS HAVING EIGHTH GRADERS ON THE TEAM IS BENEFICIAL.

IT'S VERY NICE TO GET TO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS, AND THEY'RE AND THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE HELPING TEACH US HOW TO DO IT SO THAT MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN TEACH OTHER PEOPLE, TOO.

MARTINEZ GUERRERA JOINED THE ROBOTICS TEAM WITH HOPES TO ONE DAY BECOME AN ENGINEER.

MY DAD DID ROBOTICS AND IT LIKE I WANTED TO DO.

I WANTED TO DO LIKE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEER WHENEVER I GREW UP.

SO I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE LIKE A GOOD EXPERIENCE TO LEARN MORE OF, LIKE THE ENGINEERING BASICS.

SHE SAYS SHE'S ALREADY LEARNED VALUABLE SKILLS TO HELP HER REACH HER CAREER ASPIRATIONS, MAKE IT LIKE WORK DIFFERENTLY.

DIFFERENT GEAR RATIOS CAN MAKE CAN, LIKE IMPROVE DIFFERENT QUALITIES.

THIS IS THE 12TH YEAR BRUCE RIGGS ROBOTICS HAS PARTICIPATED IN VEX IQ.

TYNER SAYS EIGHT OF THOSE YEARS, SHE'S TAKEN AT LEAST ONE OF HER TEAMS TO WORLDS, AND SHE HOPES TO TAKE MORE.

THEY GET TO WORK ALONGSIDE TEAMS FROM LITERALLY ALL OVER THE WORLD CHINA, AUSTRALIA, COLOMBIA, NEW ZEALAND.

BRING JUNIOR HIGH WILL HOST ITS ROBOTICS COMPETITION ON NOVEMBER 7TH, AND IN DECEMBER THEY'LL ATTEND A SIGNATURE EVENT WHERE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND AS WELL.

RICH.

WELL, GOOD LUCK TO EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

TAELYR.

ON SUNDAY, THREE NEW LAWS TAKE EFFECT IN OKLAHOMA THAT WILL HOPEFULLY HELP COMBAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN OUR STATE.

AND IT'S DESPERATELY NEEDED AS OKLAHOMA RANKS NUMBER ONE OR NEAR THE TOP IN ALL DOMESTIC ABUSE CATEGORIES.

THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THIS WEEK'S IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH MODERATOR SUNNY LEE.

SUNNY.

THANK YOU.

RICH, LET'S BEGIN BY INTRODUCING MY GUEST TODAY.

IN 2017, ALISA HENNEN SURVIVED STALKING AND KIDNAPING BY HER EX-HUSBAND.

HER RESCUE AND THE SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION OF HER ASSAILANT IS ATTRIBUTED TO HER STRONG FAITH, LAW ENFORCEMENT COLLABORATION, AND LOCAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES.

SHE'S A WIFE, MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, 25 YEAR HR PROFESSIONAL, A NATIONAL SPEAKER AND AUTHOR OF OUT OF CONTROL.

SHE TELLS HER STORY TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

YOU AND JANINE COLLIER IS THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS WITH THE CASE FAMILY SAFETY CENTER.

SHE SPENT TEN YEARS THERE BUT HAS A CAREER THAT SPANS 25 YEARS WORKING WITH A VARIETY OF STATE AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

SHE WEARS MANY HATS IN HER CURRENT POSITION, FROM GRANT WRITING TO DEVELOPING BUDGETS, BUT HER FOCUS IS CENTERED ON HELPING TO TRANSFORM THE LIVES OF VICTIMS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED INTENSE TRAUMA.

SHE'S CURRENTLY PURSUING HER PHD TO HELP BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND COMMUNITY FACING ADVOCACY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, JANINE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

ALISA, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH YOU.

YOU ENDURED AN UNIMAGINABLE SCENARIO HERE.

YOU WERE ABDUCTED BY YOUR EX-HUSBAND AND HELD FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

I'M JUST GOING TO LET YOU TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR STORY.

I KNOW ABUSE COMES IN MANY FORMS PHYSICAL, SEXUAL, EMOTIONAL, FINANCIAL.

BUT TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR STORY BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE TYPICAL.

IT WASN'T TYPICAL, A LITTLE BIT BIZARRE ACTUALLY.

AND IT'S A LONG STORY.

SO I'LL I'LL JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU.

IT WENT ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

AND JULY OF 2016, WE DIVORCED.

WE HAD A VERY AMICABLE DIVORCE.

WE'VE BEEN MARRIED FOUR YEARS AND HE HAD BEEN WORKING OUT OF STATE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

HE WAS NEVER ABUSIVE DURING THE MARRIAGE, VOLUNTEERED WITH ME AT CHURCH.

I MEAN, JUST SOME OF THE I REALLY ENJOYED DOING THINGS WITH BEING WITH VERY INTELLIGENT PERSON.

OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, HE CONTACTED ME AND WANTED TO RECONCILE AND I TOLD HIM I DID NOT WANT TO RECONCILE.

AND THEN, AS THE WEEKS WOULD GO BY, HE BECAME MORE AND MORE INSISTENT AND IT WAS NEVER ABUSIVE OR THREATENING, NOT VIOLENT IN ANY WAY.

BUT THE EMAILS AND THE MESSAGES, THE PHONE CALLS TO MY JOB, THE PHONE CALLS TO MY CELL PHONE WERE JUST INSISTENT THAT HE LOVED ME.

AND WE BELONG TOGETHER.

SILENCE IS GOING TO SEND THAT MESSAGE.

SO I SENT HIM A TEXT AND TOLD HIM I WISHED HIM WELL.

THERE WERE NO HARD FEELINGS, BUT I WOULD NOT BE COMMUNICATING WITH HIM ANYMORE.

AFTER THAT, IT JUST GOT WORSE.

HE RAMPED, RAMPED UP THE PHONE CALLS AND THE EMAILS AND THE TEXT MESSAGES BROKE INTO MY POST OFFICE BOX, BROKE INTO MY HOME AND STOLE JEWELRY FROM MY HOME.

I FOUND OUT LATER THAT WAS HIM.

AT THE TIME, I STILL THOUGHT HE WAS LIVING IN WISCONSIN, SO I TOLD THE POLICE OFFICER WHO INVESTIGATED THE THEFT THAT I WAS ALMOST SURE IT WASN'T HIM, BUT IT WAS.

HE CONFIRMED FOR ME LATER.

IT WAS BY THE END OF THAT MONTH, THE END OF JANUARY, I HAD PUT IN A HOME SECURITY ALARM AND HE HAD BEGUN A COUNTDOWN TO MY BIRTHDAY.

HE WOULD SEND ME TEXTS AND EMAILS, YOU KNOW, 14 DAYS UNTIL YOUR BIG SURPRISE OR TEN DAYS UNTIL YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING.

AND THAT WAS DISTURBING TO ME.

ABSOLUTELY.

I DID TALK WITH MY DOCTOR BECAUSE I WASN'T SLEEPING AND SHE GAVE ME A FAMILY SAFETY CENTER CARD.

SHE SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANYTHING TO HELP YOU SLEEP.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU HELP TO END THIS.

AND I PUT THE CARD ON THE KITCHEN COUNTER AND THAT'S WHERE IT STAYED.

I HAD A SECURITY SYSTEM INSTALLED, AND A WEEK AFTER THE SECURITY SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED ON FEBRUARY THE 6TH, HE ACTUALLY BROKE INTO MY HOME AND THE NEIGHBORS IDENTIFIED HIM.

THEY SAID HE USED A KEY TO GET INTO THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE.

SO I WENT THAT NIGHT AND BOUGHT NEW LOCKS.

AND WHEN I CAME HOME, IT WAS DARK AND HE HAD DISABLED MY SECURITY LIGHTS AND HE WAS STANDING IN THE YARD WAITING FOR ME.

HE TOLD ME HE WANTED TO RECONCILE.

HE WANTED TO COME IN THE HOUSE.

HE WANTED TO TALK WITH ME.

AND I TOLD HIM THOSE THINGS WERE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT HE WAS SCARING ME AND THAT I DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIM.

HE SAID, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.

I'M LEAVING.

CALLED THE POLICE.

THEY CAME.

THEY TOOK MY REPORT, GAVE ME ANOTHER FAMILY SAFETY CENTER CARD AND SAID, WE ARE INSISTING THAT YOU GO GET A PROTECTIVE ORDER.

I SAID, I REALLY DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO HURT ME.

RIGHT?

AT WHAT POINT, THOUGH, DID HE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY PUT, YOU KNOW, ABDUCT YOU AND TAKE YOU?

WAS THIS THE SAME NIGHT?

NO, ACTUALLY, I GOT THE PROTECTIVE ORDER AND WE THOUGHT IT WORKED.

I GOT THE EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDER IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

IT BECAME A TWO YEAR PROTECTIVE ORDER.

AND MARCH AND APRIL.

EVERYTHING'S FINE.

IT'S QUIET.

IT'S FINE.

HE TOLD THE JUDGE HE WAS GOING BACK TO WISCONSIN AND NO REASON NOT TO BELIEVE HIM.

APRIL 25TH, 2017.

I COME HOME FROM WORK.

I TURN OFF MY ALARM SYSTEM.

I GO TO LET MY DOG OUT, AND WHEN I TURN AROUND, HE TEASES ME.

HE IS.

HE HAS COME INTO MY HOUSE.

WHEN I LEFT FOR WORK THAT MORNING, HE CUT A HOLE IN THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE INTO MY MASTER BEDROOM TO BYPASS THE SECURITY SYSTEM, AND HE WAITED IN THE HOUSE UNTIL I CAME HOME AND TURNED THE SYSTEM OFF.

WHEN HE TASED YOU, HE ABDUCTED YOU AND HELD YOU.

AND YOU WERE.

YOU WERE RESCUED BY POLICE?

YES.

AND SO, YES, 28 HOURS AFTERWARDS, I WAS IN SILOAM SPRINGS HOTEL ROOM.

AND WHEN I KNEW HE HAD BROKEN MY RIBS AND PUT ME IN THE BACK OF HIS TRUCK TO TAKE ME, TO KILL ME.

AND WHEN I, I KNEW THAT WAS HAPPENING.

SO I HAD PRAYED AND ASKED GOD TO JUST SEND THESE TWO BIG WARRIOR ANGELS TO COME AND HELP ME.

AND 28 HOURS LATER, SILOAM SPRINGS POLICE OFFICERS.

THEY KNOCKED ON THE HOTEL ROOM DOOR, AND THERE THEY WERE.

THEY WERE THE TWO THAT I HAD ASKED FOR.

THEY TOOK HIM INTO CUSTODY.

HE'S BEEN IN CUSTODY EVER SINCE, AND HE WILL BE UNTIL HE IS 90.

OKAY, WELL, THANK GOD FOR THAT.

I'M VERY THANKFUL.

JANINE, COMING FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, I JUST LISTENING TO THE STORY GAVE ME GOOSEBUMPS.

OKLAHOMA IS AMONG THE WORST IN THE NATION.

WE CONSISTENTLY EITHER COME IN AT NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENTS, 49% OF WOMEN.

SO NEARLY HALF OF ALL WOMEN, 40% OF MEN.

I DON'T WANT TO JUST IGNORE THE GUYS ON THIS.

THIS IS A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER, BUT WHAT IS IT ABOUT OKLAHOMA?

WHY?

WHY ARE WE HOLDING ON TO THIS NATIONAL SPOT OF BEING NUMBER ONE?

SO I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS AT PLAY THERE.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NORMS ABOUT POWER AND RELATIONSHIPS AND THE RESOURCES, RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

INTERGENERATIONAL TRAUMA IS THE ENVIRONMENT.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE RAISED, DOMESTIC ABUSE OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A LEARNED BEHAVIOR.

SO WHEN CHILDREN ARE IN THE HOMES AND IT'S OCCURRING, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING, THEY THEN GROW UP AND TYPICALLY WILL BECOME PERPETRATORS THEMSELVES OR MORE LIKELY TO BE VICTIMS.

SO IT'S A VIAL, A CIRCLE OF VIOLENCE.

SO THE KIDS SEE IT.

THEY GO ON TO BECOME ASSAILANTS AND ABUSERS WHEN THEY.

AND THEN IT JUST KEEPS GOING ON.

THROUGHOUT DECADES OF FAMILIAL ISSUES.

AND THEN THE ECONOMIC STRESS IS HUGE FOR FOR A LOT OF VICTIMS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATION OR THE CAPABILITY TO LEAVE.

SO THEY'RE STUCK AND THE ABUSER CONTROLS ALL THE FINANCES TYPICALLY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE WE HAVE A HUGE SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE HERE, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING THEY CAUSE THAT, BUT THEY DO ACCELERATE SITUATIONS BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT SEEKING HELP.

SO THEY'RE OUT OF CONTROL AND THEIR IMPULSIVE BEHAVIORS ARE HIGHER.

AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE CULTURAL NORMALIZATION, MUCH LIKE WHAT ALYSSA WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S FAMILY BUSINESS.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

THIS IS ALL ME.

THIS IS MY SCENE.

I CAN TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I WOULD EQUATE THAT TO THE OKLAHOMA SAYING OF PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS.

AND THAT IS SO DAMAGING TO FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

YOU HAVE WRITTEN A BOOK, ALISA, ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN, WHEN YOU WERE WRITING THAT, WAS IT MORE WAS IT HARD OR WAS IT MORE CATHARTIC?

I MEAN, OR A MIXTURE?

NO, IT WASN'T DIFFICULT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ALREADY NATIONALLY FOR SOME TIME, AND IT WASN'T WRITTEN TO BE A BESTSELLER BY ANY MEANS.

BUT WOMEN WOULD LINE UP AFTER A CONFERENCE AND THEY WOULD ASK ME, CAN YOU CALL MY SISTER?

WOULD YOU SIT DOWN WITH MY MOM?

COULD YOU TALK TO MY FRIEND?

AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE.

I MEAN, I TRIED, I DID SOME OF THAT, BUT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO SHARE THAT STORY WITH THEM.

SO.

SO YEAH, I TOOK SIX WEEKS AND IT'S LESS THAN 100 PAGES.

IT'S WRITTEN AT AN EIGHTH GRADE LEVEL.

IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT THAN MOST PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY COMFORTABLE WITH.

BUT NO, BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S NEEDED IS BECAUSE IF PEOPLE KEEP IGNORING IT AND KEEP SUGARCOATING IT OR PEOPLE, THAT'S FAMILY BUSINESS, THEN THE PROBLEM JUST GETS WORSE.

SO THAT LEADS ME TO THIS QUESTION THEN WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN?

BECAUSE THERE'S A DEATH EVERY FIVE DAYS IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA DUE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON AVERAGE.

SO DO WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES IN OKLAHOMA?

WHAT WOULD HELP?

WOULD IT BE MONEY, SHELTER, EDUCATION, INTERVENTIONS OF SOME SORT, TEACHING KIDS HOW TO DEAL WITH THEIR EMOTIONS RATHER THAN EXPRESSING THEM IN ABUSIVE WAYS?

I MEAN, WHAT ARE WHAT'S NEEDED?

SO I THINK YOU'VE HIT SEVERAL THINGS THERE.

SHELTERS GET FULL.

AND WHEN I SAY FULL, THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T FILL THEIR BEDS, BUT THEY'RE LIKE DAYCARES.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF TO MAN THE THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THERE, THEY CAN ONLY TAKE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT THE STAFF CAN HANDLE.

SO THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

SO MORE RESOURCES AND MORE MONEY.

ABSOLUTELY.

STATE SUSTAINABLE STATE FUNDING IS HUGE.

I THINK THAT WE, A LOT OF US RELY ON FEDERAL FUNDING.

AND THAT'S VOLATILE REALLY NOW VOLATILE, BUT ALWAYS KIND OF VOLATILE.

AND THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE A LOT IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, A LOT OF PHILANTHROPIC FOLKS THAT GIVE US MONEY, ALL OF US THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO HELP PEOPLE.

THERE'S THREE NEW LAWS THAT THERE MAY BE EVEN MORE THAT ARE GETTING READY TO GO INTO EFFECT NOVEMBER 1ST.

ONE OF THEM ALLOWS JUDGES TO PUT GPS MONITORS ON ABUSERS UNTIL THEIR CASE IS RESOLVED.

ANOTHER ONE HAS TO DO WITH WITH CHILDREN BEING PRESENT TO.

IF A CHILD WITNESSES AN ABUSIVE CASE, THE PENALTIES ARE HARSHER.

WHAT'S CONSIDERED ACTUAL PHYSICAL ABUSE AND THINGS THAT LEAVE SCARS OR BURNS OR MARKS OR STRANGULATION.

THOSE ARE NOW CONSIDERED FELONIES RATHER THAN MISDEMEANORS.

DO YOU THINK THESE NEW LAWS WILL HELP OR.

I ABSOLUTELY THINK THEY DO, BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE, THE LEGAL SYSTEM HAS LOOKED AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS A SERIES OF LIKE ISOLATED EVENTS.

AND SO WITH EXPANDING IT TO THE FELONIES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

PEOPLE.

SORRY.

NO, NO.

THAT'S OKAY.

PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE PHYSICAL HARM AND SEE THAT.

IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

PHYSICAL HARM BEFORE HAS BEEN A OVERSIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO MINIMIZED IT BY MAKING IT A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

OKAY.

SO THIS SHOULD HELP THE THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR.

AND THEN THE GPS MONITOR IS A PROACTIVE THING, RIGHT?

IT'S HELPING FOLKS BE ABLE TO KNOW LAW ENFORCEMENT IN PARTICULAR, KNOW WHEN THE, THE MOVEMENT OF THE ABUSER.

AND SO THEN THEY CAN PREVENT A KIND OF A TRAGIC EVENT.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE JUST A MINUTE OR SO LEFT.

BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU, I HEAR PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST LEAVE?

WHY DIDN'T SHE GET OUT?

I CAN'T BELIEVE ONE TIME A GUY HITS ME, I'M OUT.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO WHO ASK THAT QUESTION?

I DIDN'T CONSIDER WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH ABUSE OR STALKING.

I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT IT WAS.

AND SO WHAT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS MOST WOMEN DON'T RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, WE THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH IT.

IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE, IT'S A FRUSTRATION, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ILLEGAL.

IT'S OUR PERSONAL BUSINESS.

AND I THINK FEAR IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GET OUT, IF THEY DON'T SEE THAT THERE ARE RESOURCES TO GET OUT, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THAT LEADS ME TO THE LAST THING THEN.

SO WHAT?

YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO TELL SOMEBODY WHO MAY BE WATCHING THIS AT HOME WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WE SAID, IT'S THE FROG IN THE SOUP THEORY.

YOU PUT A FROG IN HOT WATER, IT JUMPS OUT, YOU PUT IT IN COLD WATER AND HEAT IT UP.

YOU MAKE FROG SOUP EVENTUALLY.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE CASE.

A LOT OF WOMEN ARE AND THEY DON'T REALIZE IT'S ABUSE.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO TELL SOMEONE TO GET OUT?

WHAT?

WHAT ARE THE THINGS THEY NEED TO WATCH FOR?

SO I THINK SOME OF THE BIG ONES ARE, IS IF YOUR RELATIONSHIP IS MOVING QUICKLY, THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

THAT'S NOT HEALTHY.

BOUNDARIES.

ABUSERS TYPICALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH BOUNDARIES.

THEY'RE INSULTED BY BOUNDARIES WHEN THEY ARE INTERACTING WITH YOU.

THEY'RE THEY'RE TRYING TO USE POWER AND CONTROL AND MANIPULATION.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND MAKE THEIR, THEIR LOVE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE POWER OF CONTROL OF THE SITUATION AND THE PERSON.

OKAY, SO I CAN MANIPULATION, ISOLATING YOU FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY IS ANOTHER ONE.

GASLIGHTING.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH FOR?

THE ADVICE THAT I GIVE PEOPLE IS IS AN ACRONYM.

IT'S RUN.

IT'S THE R IS FOR RECOGNIZE WHAT'S HAPPENING TO YOU IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR.

OKAY, YOU MAY THINK IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT THE R IS FOR UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE RESOURCES, WHETHER YOU NEED HELP MEDICALLY, PHYSICALLY, FINANCIALLY, COUNSELING, OR LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE I DID.

THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE AT THE FAMILY SAFETY CENTER AT NO CHARGE.

AND THEN THE LAST THE IN IN RUN IS FOR NEVER FORGET THAT YOUR LIFE IS WORTH LIVING.

YOU KNOW, YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD.

YOU ARE NOT MEANT TO LIVE IN FEAR EVERY DAY.

THIS IS NOT SURVIVING.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS SURVIVING EVERY DAY.

THIS ISN'T LIVING.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE MEANT TO DO.

YOU'RE WORTH MORE THAN THIS.

BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU THERE IS LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND IT'S IT'S A GOOD LIFE.

IT'S A GOOD LIFE.

BUT IT WASN'T.

YOU SEEM MUCH MORE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THESE DAYS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, LADIES, FOR BEING WILLING TO COME ON AND TELL YOUR STORY.

AND IF YOU NEED HELP, IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING WHAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, PLEASE REACH OUT.

THERE ARE CHOICES AVAILABLE FOR YOU.

THERE IS HELP AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, LADIES.

AND THANK YOU, SONNY.

SOME REALLY GREAT INFORMATION THERE.

OKAY, BEFORE WE GO, A BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR EDUCATION REPORTER, TAELYR JACKSON.

HER REPORTING REMINDS US THAT EVERY CHILD DESERVES OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE, DISCOVER THEIR STRENGTHS, AND EXPERIENCE A SENSE OF BELONGING.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING AND THANKING TAELYR JACKSON.

ALL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT THAT?

TAYLOR WAS HONORED WITH THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS MEDIA AWARD FOR THE MAYOR'S COMMITTEE ON DISABILITY CONCERNS FOR REPORT ON OKLAHOMANS WITHOUT LIMITS CAMP THAT AIRED ON THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

THAT WAS THAT WAS BACK IN JULY.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF IT RIGHT THERE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO TAELYR JACKSON ON THE NEXT OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT, A RECAP OF ELECTION NIGHT IN OKLAHOMA.

IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG NIGHT.

IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK FOR OUR NEWS TEAM AS WE SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE STATE TO BRING YOU COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE OF ALL OF TUESDAY'S RESULTS.

FRIDAY AT SEVEN.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO SAY SO LONG FOR NOW WITH A, OF COURSE, A LOOK AT FRIGHT FEST AT FRONTIER CITY PUT TOGETHER FOR US BY OETA LEVI WILKERSON.

FOR ALL OF US WHO PLAY A ROLE IN PUTTING THIS NEWSCAST ON THE AIR EACH WEEK, I'M RICH LENZ HAVE A SAFE AND HAPPY HALLOWEEN, EVERYONE.

NIGHT.

SOMETHING EVIL'S LURKING IN THE DARK.

UNDER THE MOON LIGHT.

YOU SEE YOURSELF THAT ALMOST STOPS YOUR HEART.

YOU TRY TO SCREAM, BUT IT TAKES THE SOUND BEFORE YOU MAKE IT.

AND YOU START TO FREE.

AS SOMEONE LOOKS YOU RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES.

YOU'RE PARALYZED CAUSE THIS IS DAMAGE.

FILLER NIGHT.

AND NO ONE'S GONNA SAVE YOU FROM THE BEAST.

ABOUT STRIKE.

YOU KNOW IT'S NEVER BEEN A NIGHT.

YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE INSIDE A KILLER THRILLER TONIGHT.

YEAH.

OOH.

YOU HEAR THE DOOR SLAM.

AND REALIZE THERE'S NOWHERE LEFT TO RUN.

YOU FEEL THE COLD AND WONDER IF YOU EVER SEE THE SUN.

YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND HOPE THAT THIS IS JUST IMAGINATION.

GIRL.

BUT ALL THE WHILE YOU HEAR A CREATURE CREEPIN UP BEHIND.

YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

I CONFESS THIS IN TAELYR NIGHT, GIRL, I CAN FEEL YOU MORE THAN ANY GOES WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST.

IN LOVE.

SO LET ME HOLD YOU TIGHT.

AND SHARE A KILLER.

HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER BEINGS WHEN WE DON'T SHARE LANGUAGE?

MEET OSAGE ARTIST LYDIA CHIHUAHUA.

THIS ONE'S REALLY PRETTY.

INFORMED BY HER INDIGENOUS