MONDAY EVENING AT TEN ON OETA.

GO BACK IN TIME.

THURSDAY EVENINGS AT SEVEN ON OETA.

CANTON LAKE WATER ONCE AGAIN ON ITS WAY TO REPLENISH LAKE HEFNER IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF DRIVE OFF OF TOURISM, RIGHT?

I MEAN, WITHOUT NO WATER, THERE'S NO TOURISM, WITHOUT NO TOURISM, THERE'S NO REVENUE.

WITH INTERIM STUDIES UNDERWAY, CAN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION BE FAR BEHIND?

THERE WAS A HUGE SHIFT AWAY FROM ISSUES AND CONSEQUENCES, MORE TOWARDS RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.

AS A MINDSET, OKLAHOMA STATE CELEBRATES AN HISTORIC COMEBACK AND THE ADDITION OF A NEW TEAM DOCTOR.

WHAT KIND OF CHANGING THE WAY OSU DOES MEDICINE FOR ALL OF OUR TEAMS?

SO YOU GUYS WILL SEE ME AT A LOT MORE EVENTS THAN YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN PEOPLE IN THE PAST.

AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ON THE GROWING PRESENCE OF FLOCK CAMERAS ON OKLAHOMA STREETS.

AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE ATTENTIVE TO WHAT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE COLLECTING AS FAR AS DATA, AND THEN HOW THEY'RE UTILIZING THAT.

TULSA'S GILCREASE ART MUSEUM COMMISSIONS DOZENS OF NEW WORKS TO FILL ITS SOON TO BE COMPLETED GALLERIES.

IF WE WANT OUR COLLECTION, OUR MUSEUM, OUR INSTITUTION TO RESONATE WITH AUDIENCES TODAY, WE NEED WORK THAT ALSO REFLECTS THAT.

THOSE STORIES, PLUS DROUGHT DRIVEN WILDFIRES SWEEPING DOWN THE PLAINS.

NEXT ON THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

I'M RICH LENZ.

OKLAHOMA CITY IS REPLENISHING THE WATER LEVEL IN LAKE HEFNER WITH WATER DRAWN FROM CANTON LAKE, LOCATED ROUGHLY 100 MILES TO THE NORTHWEST.

NOW, THIS HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, BUT EVERY TIME IT DOES, IT ANGERS PEOPLE WHO ENJOY THE FISHING, THE LAKE, OR OWN RECREATIONAL BUSINESSES NEAR IT.

NOAH MACK JOINS US NOW TO EXPLAIN THE ISSUES INVOLVED.

NOAH.

YES.

RICH.

16,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER IS BEING RELEASED.

THAT'S OVER 5 BILLION GALLONS.

AND NOT ALL THAT WATER MAKES IT TO THE CITY.

NOW, CAN.

LAKE IS A MAJOR ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE CITY OF CANTON.

THIS RELEASE LEAVING RESIDENTS FEELING HIGH AND DRY.

OKLAHOMA CITY IS RELEASING BILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER FROM CANTON LAKE.

SENDING IT ON ITS WAY TO LAKE HEFNER.

THE MAN MADE LAKE IN CANTON WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN THE 1940S FOR THE PURPOSE OF FLOOD CONTROL.

THE CITY OF ENID INITIALLY OWNED THE STORAGE RIGHTS, BUT AS OF 1990, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REASSIGNED THOSE RIGHTS TO OKLAHOMA CITY.

SO ULTIMATELY, OKC IS ENTITLED TO THE WATER.

BUT THE TWO LAKES, HEFNER AND CANTON, AREN'T EXACTLY CREATED EQUAL.

WE COMPARE OURS TO A PIE PLATE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE OF A BIG BOWL FOR THE CITY OF CANTON AND SURROUNDING AREAS.

THE LAKE HAS BECOME A RECREATIONAL HUB AND ECONOMIC FULCRUM.

WITHOUT NO WATER, THERE'S NO TOURISM, WITHOUT NO TOURISM, THERE'S NO REVENUE.

THE RELEASE IS BEING DONE TO SUPPLEMENT LAKE HEFNER DEPLETION DURING DROUGHT CONDITIONS, AND THE EFFECT ON CANTON LAKE IS EMPIRICAL.

NORMAL POOL LEVEL WOULD PROBABLY BE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE THAT STICK IS, WHERE IT'S STICKING OUT OF THE ROCKS, THERE WHERE SOMEBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, THESE TREE TRUNKS JUTTING OUT OF THE WATER HERE ARE VESTIGES OF HOW FAR THE WATER LINE RECEDED.

BACK IN 2012.

HEFNER WAS ALSO STRUGGLING DURING THAT DROUGHT, AND SO THEY PULLED FROM CANTON IN EARLY 2013, ALMOST 10 BILLION GALLONS WAS TAKEN.

IN TURN, THE WILDLIFE AND BROADER COMMUNITY SUFFOCATED.

THE WAY THE PEOPLE REACTED TO THAT WAS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY LARGE FISH KILL.

OKLAHOMA CITY EVENTUALLY ENDED UP PUTTING AERATORS OUT HERE IN THE LAKE TO TRY TO HELP SALVAGE SOME FISH LOSS DURING AND AFTER THAT TIME.

BUT THE EFFECT OF THAT IS THE MINDSET OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT?

THEY'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ONCE, AND IT PRETTY MUCH DECIMATED US FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THE LAKE CAME BACK.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT STICKS IN EVERYBODY'S MIND AROUND HERE.

CURTIS HOSKINS, PRESIDENT OF CANTON LAKE ASSOCIATION, BELIEVES CANTON'S ECONOMIC POTENTIAL IS THROTTLED WHILE THE LAKE REMAINS UNDER OKLAHOMA CITY'S PURVIEW.

IT'S HARD FOR SOMEBODY OUTSIDE TO COME IN AND INVEST CAPITAL INTO A COMMUNITY THAT HAS VERY LITTLE CONTROL OF THE RESOURCE.

THE OVERLOOK CAFE IS ONE BUSINESS RELIANT ON LAKE TRAFFIC WITH TOURISM AND THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THAT COULD AFFECT AND HAS AFFECTED IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES HAVE CLOSED UP AND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD IS AFFECTED.

ANY TIME THE LAKE LEVEL GETS DOWN TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, RECREATION IS NO LONGER AN OPTION.

WHEN THE FLOODGATES OPENED, ANGLERS LINED THE SPILLWAY.

THERE, LETTING WATER OUT OF THE DAM.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BRING A WHOLE LOT OF FISH WITH IT.

I THOUGHT WE'D COME OUT AND TRY FISHING.

A NOTABLE TOURISM BOOM FOR THE CITY IS DURING THE CANTON LAKE WALLEYE RODEO, HELD IN MAY, A TRIP MONICA ELLINGTON OF WOODWARD IS ALREADY BOOKING.

I'VE BEEN TO TWO YEARS IN A ROW NOW.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 27.

THAT'LL BE THE 60TH ANNIVERSARY.

OKLAHOMA CITY IS ALSO ECONOMICALLY DEPENDENT ON ITS WATER SUPPLYING TO 17 SEPARATE COMMUNITIES AND RURAL WATER DISTRICTS, SERVING OVER A MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE AND GENERATING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE.

SENATOR ELECT JESSICA WEINGART OF CALUMET IS PREPARING TO ENTER THE LEGISLATURE, LOOKING TO INCREASE CANTON'S DECISION MAKING POWER.

I FULLY RECOGNIZE OKC'S WATER RIGHTS.

I HAVE NEVER DISPUTED THEM, BUT THE IDEA THAT CANTON LAKE EXISTS BECAUSE OF, OR SOLELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OKLAHOMA CITY SIMPLY ISN'T HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.

MUCH OF THE WATER LEAVING CANTON LAKE WILL BE LOST ENTIRELY.

THE DRY RIVERBED AND OVERGROWTH, INCLUDING INVASIVE RED CEDAR TREES, ARE TANTAMOUNT TO CLOGS OR LEAKS IN A PIPE ALONG THE WATER'S JOURNEY.

NATURE WILL DRINK UP BILLIONS OF GALLONS.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE EVER RELEASED WATER DOWN A DRY RIVERBED THAN WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING READY TO DO.

CURTIS PREDICTS ROUGHLY 3 BILLION GALLONS, WHICH IS 60% OF THE RELEASE.

HOWEVER, OKLAHOMA CITY IS PREDICTING MORE OPTIMISTICALLY AT ONLY 40% WATER LOSS.

STILL, ROUGHLY 2 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER.

REPRESENTATIVE MIKE DOBRINSKY SAYS DISCUSSIONS ARE BEING HAD ABOUT OKLAHOMA CITY TAKING PART IN IMPROVING WATER RETENTION.

WE'RE TALKING TO OKLAHOMA CITY NOW, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TALKING TO THEM IN THE FUTURE ABOUT THEM TAKING A ROLE ADDRESSING THE NORTH CANADIAN FROM OVERHOLSER TO CANTON TO WHERE WHEN THEY NEED THE FLOW IN THE FUTURE, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GET MORE OF IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY SEEM TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS DURING THE DROUGHT AND WHEN IT'S TIME FOR A WATER DRAW.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO CONTINUE.

AND IT SEEMS WITH RECENT LEADERSHIP SHIFTS, DIALOG BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES HAS IMPROVED.

THE CITY FOLKS GET IT?

YOU KNOW THAT TAKING WATER FROM THE RURAL AREA IS PAINFUL.

CURTIS HOPES PRESSURE WILL EVENTUALLY BE TAKEN OFF CANTON AS OKLAHOMA CITY CONTINUES TO DEVELOP MORE ROBUST WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SOON AS THEY GET THEIR INTERCONNECTIVITY OF ALL THEIR PIPELINES INSIDE OKLAHOMA CITY, WHERE THEY CAN TRANSPORT WATER AND MOVE IT MORE EFFICIENTLY INSIDE THE CITY, I THINK IT'LL HELP TAKE SOME PRESSURE OFF OF CANTON.

BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST KIND OF HERE BEHIND THE CLOCK IN A DROUGHT CONDITIONS.

AND THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

THE LAST RELEASE WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO IN 2024.

THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO COMPLETE.

RICH.

NOAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, THE CITY OF INOLA HAS EXTENDED A MORATORIUM ON THE PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ALUMINUM SMELTER PLANT FOR SEVEN MORE MONTHS UNTIL APRIL OF 2027.

GOVERNOR KEVIN STITT SAYS THAT'S A BAD MOVE.

CITIZENS GROUPS HAVE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THE PLAN, CITING CONCERNS ABOUT POLLUTION AND WATER CONSUMPTION.

THE GOVERNOR RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING THE ALUMINUM PLANT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2014 AND HAS ALREADY RECEIVED STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING.

THE GOVERNOR WENT ON TO SAY, QUOTE, LOCAL VOICES SHOULD CONTINUE TO SPEAK INTO THE PROCESS, BUT CHANGING THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF A MULTIYEAR PERMITTING PROCESS UNDERMINES THE CERTAINTY.

JOB CREATORS NEED TO INVEST BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CREATE THOUSANDS OF JOBS.

OKLAHOMA MUST REMAIN A STATE WHERE VALID ZONING, GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS, AND ESTABLISHED LEGAL PROCESSES MEAN SOMETHING.

THIS REVERSAL SETS A DAMAGING PRECEDENT THAT SHOULD BE CAREFULLY REVIEWED UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION.

MORE THAN A DOZEN WILDFIRES HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN OKLAHOMA THIS WEEK, AS THE LATEST U.S.

DROUGHT MONITOR REPORT REVEALS, A LITTLE MORE THAN 50% OF THE STATE IS EXPERIENCING EXTREME DROUGHT, AND NEARLY 17% IS IN EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT.

ONE OF THE LARGEST BLAZES IS THE GRACE MONT FIRE.

AS OF FRIDAY MORNING, IT WAS ABOUT 30% CONTAINED.

IT'S BURNED MORE THAN 3000 ACRES AND DESTROYED NINE HOMES NEAR THE TOWN OF COGAR.

60 OF OKLAHOMA'S 77 COUNTIES ARE CURRENTLY UNDER A BURN BAN, AS DOZENS OF VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS WORK TO GET FIRES LIKE THIS ONE UNDER CONTROL.

IT WILL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE GREATEST UPSET VICTORIES IN OKLAHOMA STATE FOOTBALL HISTORY.

LAST SATURDAY, THE COWBOYS 24 POINT UNDERDOGS TO SIX RANKED OREGON SNAPPED A 21 GAME FBS LOSING STREAK IN BEATING THE DUCKS 39 TO 31.

AFTERWARDS, THOUSANDS OF FANS STORMED THE FIELD IN STILLWATER TO CELEBRATE WITH A NEW HEAD COACH, ERIC MORRIS, WHO BROUGHT 92 NEW PLAYERS IN WITH HIM AND A NEW TEAM DOCTOR AS WELL, WHO HAPPENS TO HAVE A FAMILIAR LAST NAME.

STEVE SHAW JOINS US NOW TO EXPLAIN STEVE RICH.

DOCTOR JESSE SHAW, NO RELATION, IS A VETERAN OF NAVAL SPECIAL FORCES.

HE SAYS THAT DISCIPLINE HE LEARNED CONTRIBUTED TO HIS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED SPORTS MEDICINE CAREER.

AND EVEN THOUGH WHAT HE DOES IS VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS FOLKS, HE KEEPS THINGS INTERESTING.

I THINK ALL MY KIDS ARE HERE.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE'RE READY.

SHOULD I INTRODUCE YOU?

THAT'S FINE.

CAN YOU GET IT RIGHT?

DOCTOR JESSE SHAW INTRODUCING HIMSELF TO OKLAHOMA STATE'S SPIRIT TEAMS.

BUT JUST LIKE ALL OF OUR ATHLETES.

I TYPICALLY GET IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS JUST SO YOU KNOW WHO I AM.

SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE HURT, WHEN YOU'RE SICK, WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY ON THE FIELD, YOU'RE NOT LIKE, WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY TALKING TO ME?

IT WILL BE ME.

SO SINCE OSU BROUGHT HIM ABOARD IN JUNE, DOCTOR SHAW HAS TAKEN CHARGE OF HEALTH CARE FOR OSU'S CHEER TEAMS AND OVER 500 OTHER OSU ATHLETES WHO COMPETE IN 14 DIVISION ONE SPORTS, INCLUDING FOOTBALL.

WHAT KIND OF CHANGING THE WAY OSU DOES MEDICINE FOR ALL OF OUR TEAMS?

SO YOU GUYS WILL SEE ME AT A LOT MORE EVENTS THAN YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN PEOPLE IN THE PAST.

SO MY OFFICE IS IN FOOTBALL, SO IF YOU'RE EVER DOWN HERE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, PLEASE JUST WALK IN.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR OSU MEDICINE IS TAKING CARE OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

DOCTOR JASON MOORE HAS BEEN AT OSU FOR NEARLY SEVEN YEARS.

HE SAYS THIS WAS THE RIGHT TIME FOR THEIR TEAM DOCTORS TO EXPAND WHAT THEY DO TO TAKE OVER FOR THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM.

OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE STARTED AND EMBARKED UPON BUILDING A SPORTS MEDICINE PROGRAM.

SO THAT STARTED WITH JUST A FEW PEOPLE.

AND HERE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE HIRED SEVERAL MORE SPORTS PHYSICIANS AND STARTED A SPORTS FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HIRED SEVERAL MORE ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS TO KIND OF ROUND OUT OUR TEAM.

I THINK THE CONTINUITY OF CARE AND JUST THE BREADTH OF CARE THAT WE CAN GIVE THROUGH OSU, THE NETWORK THAT WE HAVE IS VERY POSITIVE FOR THE ATHLETES.

AND IF YOU ASK THE COACHING STAFF, I THINK THE TURNAROUND TIMES HAVE IMPROVED.

AND JUST THE AGAIN, THE FOLLOW UP CARE HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR US DOWN HERE AS PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS WITH ALL OF OUR SPECIALISTS.

IN ADDITION TO THE SEVEN YEARS DOCTOR SHAW SPENT ON NAVAL ACTIVE DUTY, WHERE HE ALSO WORKED ON SUBMARINES, SHAW LATER WORKED IN SPORTS MEDICINE FOR NIKE, AUBURN UNIVERSITY, AND MOST RECENTLY, HE HEADED UP SPORTS MEDICINE AT WASHINGTON STATE UNIVERSITY.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT COLLEGE ATHLETICS, FOOTBALL IS THE BIG STAGE, RIGHT?

TYPICALLY FOLLOWED BY BASKETBALL PROGRAMS HERE AT OKLAHOMA STATE.

WRESTLING'S UP THERE, TOO.

BUT YOU KNOW, FOOTBALL IS IS THE STAGE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE TRAUMA.

YOU HAVE A LOT MORE SPEED BEING ABLE TO BE THERE AND HOPEFULLY HELP THEM PREVENT INJURIES AND THEN GETTING ON THE BACK END AND GETTING THEM DIAGNOSED QUICKLY, TRYING TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU WILL, TO GET THEM BACK ON THE FIELD.

BUT THAT'S THE STAGE THAT YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WANTS.

DOCTOR SHAW SAYS ON JANUARY 2ND, 2023, HE WAS PART OF THE NATIONAL TELEVISION AUDIENCE, TUNED IN TO AN NFL PLAYOFF GAME WHERE BUFFALO BILLS DEFENSIVE BACK DAMAR HAMLIN MADE A TACKLE, SUFFERED A CARDIAC ARREST AND PASSED OUT ON THE FIELD.

BILLS TRAINER IN OKLAHOMA STATE GRADUATE DENNY KELLINGTON, RAN TO HAMLIN, BROUGHT A DEFIBRILLATOR AND SAVED HAMLIN'S LIFE.

I THINK EVERYONE IN SPORTS MEDICINE, EVERYONE IN MEDICAL SCHOOL IN THE LAST TEN YEARS KNOWS THAT STORY NOW.

I MEAN, WHAT A WHAT A QUICK THOUGHT AND QUICK ACTION PLAN THAT WAS INTRODUCED THERE.

AND SO, YEAH, I THINK AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OKLAHOMA STATE PREPARED HIM TO DO WHAT HE HAD TO DO IN THE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION HE WAS IN.

BUT THOSE ENVIRONMENTS HAPPEN, RIGHT?

AND THAT'S WHY WE TRAIN SO MUCH.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH EDUCATION TO BECOME SPORTS MEDICINE PHYSICIANS.

DOCTOR SHAW SAYS THE WORST CONCUSSIONS HE'S EVER HAD TO TREAT WERE NOT SUFFERED BY FOOTBALL PLAYERS, BASKETBALL PLAYERS, EVEN WRESTLERS.

THEY WERE CONCUSSIONS SUFFERED BY CHEERLEADERS.

BECKY JACKSON IS A SAPULPA HIGH SCHOOL AND OKLAHOMA STATE GRAD WHO'S BEEN IN CHARGE OF OSU'S SPIRIT TEAMS SINCE 2013.

IT'S A CHEER AND POM PROGRAM THAT'S TALLIED 26 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, THE MOST RECENT IN 2022.

YES, SO IT'S A VERY HIGH RISK SPORT.

THEY DON'T WEAR HELMETS.

THEY SOMETIMES CAN PRACTICE IN A MOUTHGUARD.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ONE OF THE TRAINERS WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY ARE TRUSTING EACH OTHER TO BE ATHLETES LIKE THE MOST HIGH PERFORMING ATHLETES, TO BE TECHNICAL, TO BE TRAINED AND TO BE REALLY SMART, TO CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER, WHICH TAKES A LOT.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE EVER COACHED A TEAM, YOU CAN'T JUST STEP IN DAY ONE AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS THROW THIS GIRL UP INTO THE AIR AND CATCH HER.

THERE HAS TO BE THIS LEVEL OF TRUST AND THIS BUY IN WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

JACKSON SAYS THE ARRIVAL OF DOCTOR SHAW MAKES EVERYONE BETTER.

TO HAVE THAT COHESIVE PIECE, FOR OSU MEDICINE TO BE A PART OF OSU SPORTS AND COMPLETELY IS A BIG DEAL FOR US.

IT GIVES US A STANDARD THAT MOST SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE.

WE'RE VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF SPORTS MEDICINE.

IT'S RARE THAT CHEER AND DANCE GET TO BE ACCEPTED INTO THAT, BUT THEY SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AND REALLY, IN TURN, SOME OF OUR OWN ATHLETES GO ON TO GO THROUGH THE HEALTH SCIENCES PROGRAMS AT OSU.

AND SO I'M RELATIVELY USED TO WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

AND YOU GUYS DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST OF OUR OTHER SPORTS.

IF ANYTHING, YOU'RE THE CLOSEST TO WRESTLING.

YOU PROBABLY SMELL BETTER THAN THEM.

HOW COOL IS IT THAT YOUR FOOTBALL HEAD PHYSICIAN HAS ANY INTEREST IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE FIELD?

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S COMMON.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THIS PROGRAM, THEY UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE THAT THE UNIVERSITY, THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT PUTS ON THE HEALTH OF THESE STUDENT ATHLETES AND THE FACT THAT DOCTOR SHAW WANTS TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU SEE ME WHEN I HAVE TO COME SEE YOU.

WE CAN BUILD THIS RELATIONSHIP.

WE CAN APPROACH THIS FROM ALL ANGLES AND THAT I JUST GENUINELY CARE ABOUT YOUR WELL-BEING AND ABOUT LAST SATURDAY'S STUNNING WIN OVER THE OREGON DUCKS, DOCTOR SHAW SENT US A STATEMENT THAT READS, IN PART.

WE RAN TOWARDS THE NOISE, TOWARD THE HARD CHOICES, AND TOWARD A GAME WHERE NO ONE CONSIDERED US HAVING A CHANCE.

YOU ALWAYS HEAR THAT IT'S NOT WHETHER YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN, IT'S WHETHER YOU GET UP.

WE SHOWED THAT WE CAN DO IT ON THE FIELD OF PLAY.

RICH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS A GREAT STORY.

WELL, FOR SOME, THEY HELP PREVENT AND SOLVE CRIMES.

FOR OTHERS, THEY'RE AN INVASION OF PERSONAL PRIVACY.

FLOCK CAMERAS CAN BE FOUND JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS, INCLUDING HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

IN OUR UPCOMING IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION, WE'LL DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS OF THE CAMERAS AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, IS BEING DONE TO REGULATE THEIR USE.

HERE'S A PREVIEW WITH MODERATOR JASON DOYLE.

WE LOOK AT THREE GENERAL AREAS, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE CAPTURE OF THE DATA.

THAT'S THE USE OF THE DATA BY WHO'S USING IT, WHAT ARE THEY USING IT FOR.

AND THEN THAT'S RETENTION OF THE DATA.

WE THINK THOSE ARE THREE PRETTY BIG CATEGORIES THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE GOOD PRACTICES IN PLACE.

AND SO FOR US, NOT ONLY DO WE UTILIZE THE TOOLS THAT THAT FLOCK SAFETY PROVIDES TO, TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THREE THINGS, ALONG WITH AUDITS AND THOSE THINGS.

BUT WE ALSO TRY TO FOLLOW BEST PRACTICE STANDARDS.

WE HAD TWO INCIDENTS OF INAPPROPRIATE USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO ACCOUNTABILITY IS IS IMPORTANT.

TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT.

AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT, I THINK, ARE THE CONCERNS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE KNOW LAW ENFORCEMENT IS VERY CAPABLE OF DOING THEIR JOB AND WE BELIEVE THEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT FLOCK CAMERAS.

OKLAHOMA.

THE REST OF THAT CONVERSATION COMING UP LATER IN THIS NEWSCAST.

THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN LAWMAKERS BEGIN RETURNING TO THE CAPITOL TO CONDUCT INTERIM STUDIES, WHICH OFTEN LEAD TO PROPOSED LEGISLATION.

AND IF THE VOTES ARE THERE, EVENTUALLY A NEW LAW.

TAELYR JACKSON WAS ON HAND FOR TWO STUDIES THIS WEEK, ONE CONCERNING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE OTHER DISCIPLINE IN SCHOOLS.

TAELYR JOINS US NOW TO TALK ABOUT WHAT LAWMAKERS ARE CONSIDERING.

RICH.

BOTH STUDIES WERE HOSTED BY REPRESENTATIVE ROB HALL.

HE SAYS THE GOAL OF EACH INTERIM STUDY HELD THIS WEEK WAS TO FIND THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE ISSUES AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

SCHOOL IS BACK IN SESSION AND LEGISLATORS ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I'VE HEARD FROM ENOUGH TEACHERS AND PARENTS THAT DISCIPLINE IN THE CLASSROOM IS ANOTHER JUST FOUNDATIONAL THING THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND EDUCATION MORE BROADLY IN OKLAHOMA, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

REPRESENTATIVE ROB HALL BROUGHT IN LAUREN GRUEL WITH THE WISCONSIN INSTITUTE FOR LAW, ALSO KNOWN AS WILL, TO SHARE HOW HER STATE HAS GONE ABOUT HANDLING DISCIPLINE ISSUES IN SCHOOLS.

SHE SAYS MOST EDUCATORS CITE STUDENT BEHAVIOR AND LOW PAY AS THE MAIN REASON FOR LEAVING THEIR SCHOOL OR THE PROFESSION ALTOGETHER.

ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL EDUCATION POLICY CENTER REPORT, BETWEEN 2016 AND 2018, ABOUT 30,000 TEACHERS QUIT IN OKLAHOMA.

HERE'S ONE OF THE MANY TEACHER TESTIMONIES THAT GREUEL SHARED WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

TEACHER BLAMING IS JUST INSANE.

TERRIBLE.

WELL, OKAY, HERE'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

I HAVE A FIRST GRADER AND I TEACH SECOND GRADE, BUT WE HAVE A FIRST GRADER WHO, I MEAN, LITERALLY DESTROYS MY COLLEAGUES CLASSROOMS.

SHE HAD ANOTHER STUDENT THAT STABBED HER IN THE ARM THIS YEAR.

SHE HAS GOT HER HANDS FULL WITH BEHAVIOR, MULTIPLE BEHAVIORS IN THIS CLASSROOM.

AND OF COURSE, THE ADMINISTRATORS BLAME HER.

RURAL BELIEVES THE DISCIPLINE ISSUE STEMMED FROM FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED DURING THE OBAMA AND BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

THE PROBLEM IS, DURING THE OBAMA AND BIDEN ADMINISTRATIONS, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION PASSED GUIDANCE THAT REQUIRED SCHOOLS TO DISCRIMINATE ON THE BASIS OF RACE, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO STUDENT DISCIPLINE.

THIS.

THERE WAS A HUGE SHIFT AWAY FROM ISSUES AND CONSEQUENCES, MORE TOWARDS RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AS A MINDSET.

SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE MELISSA PROVENZANO, A DEMOCRAT FROM TULSA, SAID SHE DOESN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WILL'S CORRELATION BETWEEN RACE AND DISCIPLINE ISSUES.

I FELT LIKE THERE WAS THERE WAS SOME POLITICAL FODDER AT PLAY AND INVESTIGATING, LIKE WHERE THE THE WILL ORGANIZATION FOUNDATION CAME FROM, AND THEN FINDING OUT THAT THERE ARE CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK STARTED TO PAINT PAINT A MORE CLEAR PICTURE OF.

YOU KNOW, THE REASONS WE'RE HAVING THESE THINGS IS BECAUSE WE STARTED DEFUNDING SCHOOLS TWO DECADES AGO.

AND THE REASON THAT SHE CITED IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO PLAY THE RACE CARD.

AND I, I THINK THE LACK OF MONEY IS AUTHENTIC.

NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU COME FROM.

GREER'S SOLUTION TO DISCIPLINE ISSUES IN WISCONSIN WAS A TEACHERS BILL OF RIGHTS THAT WAS PASSED BY BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE, BUT ULTIMATELY VETOED BY THE STATE'S GOVERNOR.

ACCORDING TO WILL.

THE BILL WOULD STRENGTHEN TEACHER AUTHORITY, CREATE CLEAR CLASSROOM REENTRY PLANS, AND MANDATE PARENTAL NOTIFICATION.

AND THE THING THAT I'M TAKING AWAY IS THAT I THINK THERE'S BROAD ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT ORDER IN THE CLASSROOM IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, THAT IT'S DISRUPTING LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, THAT IT'S CAUSING TEACHERS TO CONSIDER LEAVING THE PROFESSION OR NOT JUST CONSIDER, BUT ACTUALLY TO LEAVE THE LEAVE THE PROFESSION.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO AVOID.

AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT, THAT SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT AND TRY TO IMPROVE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

EARLIER IN THE WEEK, REPRESENTATIVE HALL ALSO HOSTED AN INTERIM STUDY ON HOUSING, WHERE SPEAKERS DISCUSS THE EVER GROWING GAP BETWEEN THE COST OF HOMES AND THE ABILITY TO AFFORD THEM.

THAT'S CLEAR FROM THE DATA THAT, IN FACT, FOR MOST FOR MANY AMERICAN FAMILIES, OWNING A HOME IS BECOMING MORE UNAFFORDABLE.

THAT'S EVIDENCED BY THE REALITY THAT THE MEDIAN SALE PRICE FOR HOMES TODAY IS SITTING AT ROUGHLY FIVE TIMES THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

A FEW ISSUES TUESDAY'S PRESENTERS CREDIT FOR LESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HIGH INTEREST RATES AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SOME OF THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT I'VE SEEN TALKED ABOUT IN OKLAHOMA ARE THINGS LIKE PROPERTY TAXES, INSURANCE RATES, CAN'T AFFORD A HOME TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY IN.

AND SO HAVING AN IMPACT ON BIRTH RATES AND FAMILY FORMATION.

AND SO AS I HEARD, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THOSE, THOSE PROBLEMS, MY THOUGHT WAS, WELL, WHAT IS AT THE ROOT OF THOSE?

OKLAHOMA CITY REALTOR CARA BOWES SAYS SHE NOTICES MORE FOLKS ARE FORCED TO RENT RATHER THAN BUY A HOME DUE TO THE COST.

OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS YOU CAN RIGHT NOW GET INTO A RENTAL FOR PROBABLY LESS THAN YOU CAN FOR YOUR HOUSE PAYMENT.

WHEN YOU ADD YOUR TAXES AND YOUR INSURANCE AND YOUR INTEREST RATES ARE WHERE THEY ARE.

IT'S THE APARTMENT LOOKS MORE ATTRACTIVE.

ACCORDING TO FORBES, THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A HOME IN OKLAHOMA IS $265,272.

THAT'S ONE OF THE LOWEST AVERAGES IN THE NATION.

HOWEVER, MANY STILL FIND A STRUGGLE TO BUY A HOME IN THEIR PRICE RANGE.

SOLUTIONS COULD ALSO ADDRESS MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS.

OVERALL, REPRESENTATIVE HALL SEEMS POSITIVE THAT HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES WILL FIND WAYS TO ASSIST OKLAHOMANS.

I DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AFTER THE STUDY, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN LOOKING INTO THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE PERMITTING TIMELINES HERE IN OKLAHOMA, BECAUSE THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO GET APPROVAL TO PUT THAT FIRST SHOVEL IN THE GROUND, THAT HAS AN ECONOMIC COST.

OFTENTIMES BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS ARE CARRYING A LOAN, THEY BUY THE LAND AND THEY'RE THEY'RE CARRYING A LOAN FOR MONTHS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO JUST GET APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

WE CAN EXPECT LEGISLATION ADDRESSING BOTH THE HOUSING SHORTAGE AND EDUCATION DURING THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH IS SET TO BEGIN IN FEBRUARY.

TAELYR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHEN THE NEW BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP GILCREASE MUSEUM REOPENS IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.

THE BUILDING ITSELF WON'T BE THE ONLY THING THAT'S NEW.

THE NEW GILCREASE MUSEUM BUILDING IS VERY EXTRAORDINARY AND VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE STRUCTURE THAT PRECEDED IT, WHICH WAS FIVE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTS OVER THAT MANY DECADES.

THIS BUILDING HAS A LOT MORE ATTENTION TO IT, AND IT HAS A LOT OF CONNECTION TO THE SPACE AND TO THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THE MUSEUM.

BRIAN LEE WHISENHUNT, A FOURTH GENERATION OKLAHOMAN, HAS RETURNED HOME TO ASSUME THE ROLE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CEO OF THE GILCREASE MUSEUM.

SO THIS IS MY SIXTH MUSEUM TO WORK AT, AND MY SEVENTH ROLE, AND THIS IS MY FOURTH MUSEUM TO LEAD.

AND I'VE WORKED ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AT ALMOST ALL OF THOSE.

THE 9500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT, $141 MILLION FACILITY IS COMING ALONG, BUT IT'S NOT READY FOR ITS DEBUT YET, AS HIS FAMILY OFTEN REMINDS HIM.

IT'S AN ONGOING JOKE FOR THEM.

WHY DO YOU ALWAYS WORK AT CLOSED MUSEUMS?

ARE YOU JUST LAZY?

YOU DON'T HAVE THE WORK ETHIC THAT WE TRIED TO INSTILL IN YOU ANYTHING BUT WISDOM.

HUNT OVERSEES CONSTRUCTION ON THE 14 GALLERIES LOCATED ON THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS.

IN ADDITION TO MORE THAN EIGHT MILES OF NEW HIKING TRAILS THAT WILL MEANDER THROUGH THE 460 ACRE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE NEARING COMPLETION OF THE FIRST SECTION OF OUR HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS, WHICH WILL PROVIDE AN OUTDOOR EXPERIENCE HERE AS PART OF OUR CULTURAL CAMPUS.

THE BUILDING IS SMALLER THAN ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED DUE TO COST OVERRUNS AND WILL OPEN A YEAR LATER THAN EXPECTED.

BUT WHISENHUNT IS CONFIDENT THE NEW GILCREASE WILL BUILD ON THE LEGACY OF THE ORIGINAL MUSEUM, AND WILL INCLUDE ALMOST TWO DOZEN NEW PIECES OF ART COMMISSIONED TO ADD A MORE DIVERSE STABLE OF ARTISTS TO WHAT IS ALREADY THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF WESTERN ART IN THE WORLD.

OFTEN, VISITORS FIND IT DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE WITH ARTWORK OR HISTORICAL MATERIAL THAT IS OLDER THAN A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF IT, AND THESE NEW ADDITIONS GIVE ENTREE INTO THAT WORLD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWNSTAIRS TO OUR COLLECTION STORAGE AREA, AND WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE NEW ACQUISITIONS THAT WE'VE MADE FOR THE MUSEUM.

CHELSEA IS THE MUSEUM'S CURATOR OF INDIGENOUS ART AND CULTURE.

I THINK OF MY JOB AS PRIMARILY A STORYTELLER, AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE A GOOD FOUNDATION, A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF NOT JUST THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THOSE MATERIALS.

THIS IS A PIECE BY CHASE EARLS CALLED GOURD FRIEND TWO, AND IT IS BASED ON BB EIGHT FROM STAR WARS.

HE'S NOT RECREATING ANCESTRAL POTTERY AND TRYING TO JUST REPRODUCE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

HE'S TRYING TO RECONTEXTUALIZE IT AND REPURPOSE IT FOR THE 21ST CENTURY.

IN THE ART WORLD, IT'S REFERRED TO AS INDIGENOUS FUTURISM.

IT'S A NATIVE ART MOVEMENT THAT HAS TO DO WITH REPRESENTATION OF NATIVE CULTURES IN THE PAST AND THE PRESENT, AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE, AND BLENDING THOSE TOGETHER ALL IN ONE.

THE ARTIST, WHO LIVES IN ADA, OKLAHOMA, SAYS THE MOVEMENT IS FLOURISHING.

SO I THINK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, THERE'S A HUGE PUSH FOR MUSEUMS TO START SHOWING THAT LIVING CULTURE, YOU KNOW, THESE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES ARE STILL HERE.

THEY'RE INFLUENTIAL.

WE HAVE A GIGANTIC, YOU KNOW, A HISTORY IN THIS AREA.

AND AND SO WE'RE STILL PRODUCING OUR CULTURAL ART.

AND IT'S AND IT'S VERY UNIQUE.

EVERY TRIBE'S VERY UNIQUE.

THIS IS RAVEN HALF MOON.

AND THE PIECE IS CALLED STILL RESILIENT, STILL POWERFUL.

HALF MOON HAILS FROM NORMAN.

SHE'S ALSO CADDO AND DRAWS INSPIRATION FROM A SURPRISING SOURCE.

YOU CAN SEE THE TEXTURE MARKS OF HOW I BUILD IN THE COILS, AND THAT WAS INSPIRED BY VAN GOGH.

YOU KNOW, I WENT AND LOOKED AT HIS PAINTINGS WHEN I WAS REALLY YOUNG IN A MUSEUM AND LIKE SEEING HOW THICK HE PAINTED THINGS ON AND SEEING THE TEXTURES OF HIS WORK WAS SUPER INSPIRING TO ME.

HALF MOON IS ANOTHER UP AND COMING ARTIST WHOSE WORK WILL BE FEATURED IN THE NEW MUSEUM.

LIKE EARL'S, HER PRIMARY MEDIUM IS CADDO POTTERY WITH A TWIST.

AND HERE'S A YOUNG WOMAN COMING UP IN A VERY SIMILAR CERAMIC TRADITION, BUT MAKING IT HER OWN AND CREATING FIGURAL SCULPTURES AND LEAVING THE CLAY ALMOST LOOKING UNFINISHED AND RAW.

RIGHT.

AND NOT HIGHLY POLISHED LIKE A LOT OF CADDO POTTERY IS.

YEAH, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION OF ART.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT VOICES, DIFFERENT HISTORIES OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN AMERICA'S PAST.

OTHER NEW ACQUISITIONS INCLUDE VIBRANT WORK FROM ARTISTS TIFFANY ALFONSECA.

TATIANA AT CRYSTAL Z. CAMPBELL, AND THIS INTRIGUING CANVAS.

WE SEE AN ASTRONAUT FIGURE AND WE HAVE OUR OWN CONNECTIONS TO THAT FIGURE.

AND IT ALSO KIND OF HIDES OR CLOSES OFF THE IDENTITY OF THE FIGURE ITSELF IN THE PAINTING.

SO IT COULD BE ANYONE, RIGHT?

IT COULD BE THE VISITOR WHO'S LOOKING AT THE PAINTING AT THAT MOMENT.

THIS IS CALLED LOLLYGAGGING AROUND BY THE MUSKOGEE ARTIST GEORGE ALEXANDER, WHO IS HERE FROM OKLAHOMA BUT CURRENTLY LIVES IN SANTA FE.

IF WE WANT OUR COLLECTION, OUR MUSEUM, OUR INSTITUTION TO RESONATE WITH AUDIENCES TODAY, WE NEED WORK THAT ALSO REFLECTS THAT SO THAT WHEN VISITORS COME TO THE MUSEUM, THEY SEE THINGS THEY HAVEN'T SEEN FROM US BEFORE.

IN ADDITION TO THE 300,000 PIECES OF ART INSIDE, LET'S FACE IT, THIS BUILDING IS A WORK OF ART ITSELF.

IT'S BASED ON THE BELIEF OF THE OSAGE TRIBE THAT THE UNIVERSE EXISTS ON THREE PLANES THE WATER, THE LAND, AND THE SKY.

GILCHRIST SITS ON THE OSAGE NATION RESERVATION, AND THEY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT OSAGE COSMOLOGY AND HOW THEY ORGANIZE THE WORLD AROUND THEM.

AND THAT IS WELL REPRESENTED INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

AND SO OUR TWO STAIRCASES, ONE IS THE EARTH'S STAIR, WHICH WILL TAKE VISITORS DOWN TO THE LOWER LEVEL AND THE OTHER STAIR, THE STEVENSON FAMILY FOUNDATION SKY STAIR CONNECTS TO THE UPPER LEVEL AND IS VERY INSPIRING, AWE INSPIRING STRUCTURE THAT'S SUSPENDED IN SPACE AND IS A TRUE ENGINEERING MARVEL.

ONE BEAUTIFUL STEP AT A TIME.

THAT'S THE MANTRA OF THE MUSEUM'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

BETWEEN NOW AND THE SPRING OF 2027.

IT WAS A REAL HONOR TO BE ASKED TO COME BACK AND LEAD THE INSTITUTION DURING THIS TIME PERIOD.

AS WE GEAR UP TO BE NEW MUSEUM FOR THE 21ST CENTURY.

WELL, BIG NEWS FROM THE OIL PATCH.

CONTINENTAL RESOURCES COULD BE MAKING A MAJOR PLAY IN VENEZUELA SOON.

JASON DOYLE PROVIDES THE DETAILS IN THIS WEEK'S STATEWIDE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.

OKLAHOMA CITY BASED CONTINENTAL RESOURCES ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK IT HAS ENTERED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE STATE OWNED VENEZUELAN OIL AND GAS COMPANY TO OPERATE AND DEVELOP IN ONE OF THE SOUTH AMERICAN NATIONS MORE PROLIFIC OIL PRODUCING REGIONS.

THE COMPANY SAYS IT PERFORMED AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF THE OPPORTUNITIES PROVIDED BY VENEZUELA, AND A REVISION TO THAT COUNTRY'S HYDROCARBON LEGAL FRAMEWORK ALLOWED CONTINENTAL TO SIGN THE MOU.

IT'S ESTIMATED THE AREA IN WHICH CONTINENTAL WILL WORK HAS THE POTENTIAL OF 30 BILLION BARRELS OF OIL.

DENVER BASED AI FACTORY COMPANY CARUSO OPENED ITS SECOND MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN TULSA THIS WEEK.

THE NEW FACILITY GIVES CARUSO AN ADDITIONAL 400,000FT!S TO BUILD VARIOUS PARTS OF THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT NEEDED IN AI CENTERS.

THE COMPANY BUILDS AI CENTERS AND MANUFACTURES MANY OF THE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO THEM TO SAVE ON TIME AND OVERHEAD COSTS.

BARTLESVILLE BASED BLUE WHALE MATERIALS HAS REACHED A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE.

IT'S COMPLETED ITS FULL PROCESSING LINE FOR LITHIUM ION BATTERY RECYCLING AND CRITICAL MINERALS RECOVERY.

THE MILESTONE IS THE COMPLETION OF THE FIRST PHASE OF A U.S.

DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY EXPANSION GRANT TO INCREASE THE COMPANY'S PROCESSING CAPACITY FROM 14,000 TO 20,000 METRIC TONS OF BATTERY FEEDSTOCK.

THE COMPANY HAS BEGUN COMMISSIONING THE LINE TO SERVE DOMESTIC CUSTOMERS AND THEIR NEED FOR CRITICAL MINERALS.

THREE PROGRAMS WITHIN OKLAHOMA CHILDREN'S OU HEALTH EARNED TOP 50 RANKINGS FROM U.S.

NEWS AND WORLD REPORT.

THE PEDIATRIC CARDIOLOGY AND HEART SURGERY PROGRAM WAS RANKED 24TH IN THE COUNTRY.

PEDIATRIC NEPHROLOGY EARNED THE 44TH SPOT IN THE RANKING, AND PEDIATRIC NEUROLOGY AND NEUROSURGERY EARNED THE 49TH RANKING.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME OU CHILDREN'S HAS RECEIVED RANKINGS FOR THREE OF ITS PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME.

MINT TURBINES, BASED IN STROUD, OKLAHOMA, HAS RECEIVED A PRATT AND WHITNEY CANADA AUTHORIZATION TO MAINTAIN OVERHAUL AND REPAIR ITS PT SIX FAMILY OF ENGINES.

THE COMPANY SAYS THAT YEARS OF INVESTMENT IN ITS CAPABILITIES AND WORKFORCE HAVE MADE THIS IMPORTANT DESIGNATION POSSIBLE, AND IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE GROWTH OF OKLAHOMA'S AVIATION INDUSTRY.

THIS IS THE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.

JASON, THANKS.

FLOCK CAMERAS ARE NOW OPERATING AND KEEPING AN EYE ON YOU IN 49 STATES.

MORE THAN 6000 U.S.

COMMUNITIES.

POLICE SWEAR BY THEM, BUT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE SWEARING AT THEM, CLAIMING THEY'RE ORWELLIAN PRESENCE IS ERODING PERSONAL PRIVACY.

IN THIS WEEK'S IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION, MODERATOR JASON DOYLE DISCUSSES THE PROS AND CONS OF THE CAMERAS WITH HIS PANEL OF GUESTS.

JASON.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS DISCUSSION ON FLOCK CAMERAS.

IS EDMOND POLICE CHIEF JD YOUNGER AND TO MAYA COX, TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE ACLU OF OKLAHOMA.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US HERE ON IN DEPTH TODAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

CHIEF, LET'S GET STARTED WITH YOU.

HOW ARE FLOCK CAMERAS USED IN YOUR CITY OF EDMOND?

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC TOPIC IN EDMOND.

JUST TO CLARIFY, FLOCK IS A VENDOR ACTUALLY FLOCK SAFETY IS THEIR NAME.

THEY PROVIDE SEVERAL DIFFERENT STYLES OF CAMERAS.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THEIR AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS PRIMARILY.

AND SO IN EDMOND, WE CONTRACT SERVICES FOR THOSE ANNUALLY.

AND WE HAVE 14 AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS THAT FLOCK SAFETY PROVIDES US.

13 OF THE 14 ARE STATIC INSTALLS, SO THEY DON'T MOVE AROUND.

THEY'RE IN THE SAME PLACE.

AND THEN ONE OF THOSE IS ON A TRAILER THAT WE CAN TAKE TO AREAS AS NEEDS ARISE, OR DEPENDING ON CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND TAMARA, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE HEARING THROUGH THE ACLU ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS RIGHT NOW?

SO THE ACLU OF OKLAHOMA'S BIGGEST CONCERN REALLY IS AROUND PRIVACY, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

DO YOU KNOW MOST OKLAHOMA CITY RESIDENTS CAN BE TRACKED FROM THEIR FRONT DOOR TO THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE OVER 90 FLOCK CAMERAS IN OKLAHOMA CITY?

JUST ON MY WAY UP HERE, FROM MY HOUSE TO THE STUDIOS, FOUR CAMERAS WERE BEING ABLE TO TRACK WHERE I COME.

IT'S REALLY THE TRACKING OF FLOCK CAMERAS THAT CONTINUE TO BE A BIG CONCERN FOR THE ACLU OF OKLAHOMA AND THE PRIVACY CONCERNS THAT JUST COME WITH THAT.

THEY'RE NOT JUST CAMERAS IN YOUR STATIC LOCATION TYPE OF INSTANCES.

IT REALLY IS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO TRACK THE MOVEMENTS OF EVERYDAY OKLAHOMANS THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO, JD, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE KIND OF OVERSIGHT?

I ASSUME THERE'S OVERSIGHT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF HOW THESE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE USED.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND KIND OF TO FOLLOW TO MAYA'S COMMENTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THIS IS A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC CONCERN FOR EVERYBODY.

AND IT'S NOT JUST AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER INFORMATION, IT'S DATA IN GENERAL.

AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE ATTENTIVE TO WHAT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE COLLECTING AS FAR AS DATA AND THEN HOW THEY'RE UTILIZING THAT.

SO IT'S A LITTLE DISCONCERTING WHEN, WHEN THE GENERAL, YOU KNOW, POPULAR CULTURE DISCUSSION IS IT'S A BINARY THING.

YES OR NO.

PRIVACY NEEDS TO EXIST.

PUBLIC SAFETY DEFINITELY NEEDS TO EXIST.

AND SO THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE AS FAR AS THE EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN OUR OVERSIGHT, WE LOOK AT THREE GENERAL AREAS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE CAPTURE OF THE DATA.

THAT'S THE USE OF THE DATA BY WHO'S USING IT, WHAT ARE THEY USING IT FOR.

AND THEN THAT'S RETENTION OF THE DATA.

WE THINK THOSE ARE THREE PRETTY BIG CATEGORIES THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE GOOD PRACTICES IN PLACE.

AND SO FOR US, NOT ONLY DO WE UTILIZE THE TOOLS THAT THAT FLOCK SAFETY PROVIDES TO, TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THREE THINGS, ALONG WITH AUDITS AND THOSE THINGS.

BUT WE ALSO TRY TO FOLLOW BEST PRACTICE STANDARDS.

AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE NOT NEW.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO JUST A LITTLE GOOGLE SEARCH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ACLU, INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE, THIS IS A LONG STANDING TOPIC GOING BACK AT LEAST 17 YEARS, TALKING ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THESE TOOLS, THE GOVERNANCE PRACTICES FOR THESE TOOLS.

AND SO AGAIN, WE, WE UTILIZE NOT ONLY WHAT THE COMPANY PROVIDES, BUT TRY TO FOLLOW BEST PRACTICE STANDARDS AS ESTABLISHED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE AND OTHER REPUTABLE BODIES, INCLUDING THE ACLU.

YEAH, I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT THE FIRST TIME I REALLY REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION COMING UP IN OKLAHOMA IS WHEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S COUNSEL HAD DONE THE OLED PROGRAM, WHICH USES THE LICENSE PLATE READERS TO FIND OUT IF SOMEBODY HAS INSURANCE, IF THEIR TAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THAT AUTOMATED SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

THIS IS WITH FLOCK CAMERAS.

THIS IS JUST THE NAME BRAND OF A LICENSE PLATE READER.

IS THAT CORRECT?

I THINK MOST PEOPLE USE FLOCK GENERICALLY.

LIKE WE MAY USE THE TERM COKE TO TALK ABOUT A SODA OR CARBONATED BEVERAGE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS.

AND REALLY, TO MAYA'S POINT, WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT WHAT IS THE DATA BEING USED FOR, WHO'S IT BEING ACCESSED BY, WHICH ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND AND SHOULD BE UP FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

WELL, TAMARA, LET'S BRING THAT UP.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW PRIVACY CONCERNS ARE AN ISSUE.

HOW WOULD THE ACLU LIKE THAT ADDRESSED?

I THINK AN OPEN, TRANSPARENT WITH COMMUNITY INVOLVED IS THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT.

BUT I THINK WHAT THE CHIEF REALLY TALKED ABOUT WAS, THIS IS A DATABASE BY A THIRD PARTY VENDOR THAT NEITHER ENTITY, WHETHER THE PUBLIC OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT, TRULY CONTROLS.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR IN PLACES LIKE OKLAHOMA CITY LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT CHANGED THEIR CONTRACT TO REDUCE THE RETAINER OF DATABASE OF DATA FROM 30 DAYS TO SEVEN DAYS.

BUT THAT REALLY WAS BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC OUTCRY NOT ONLY IN OKLAHOMA CITY, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHERE FLOCK SAFETY, THE VENDOR ITSELF CHANGED THEIR DECISION ABOUT MAINTAINING THE OR RETAINING THE DATA.

BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WITH THIS DATA, IT'S THE RETENTION RATE IS SIMPLY THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T GET TO THIS DATA.

BUT FLOCK SAFETY INDEFINITELY KEEPS THE DATA.

AND THAT SHOULD REALLY BE A CONCERN FOR ALL OKLAHOMANS.

I THINK THE OTHER PRIVACY CONCERNS, REALLY WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE DEBATE THAT HAPPENED IN OKLAHOMA CITY WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED ON THEIR CONTRACT, THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT TWO BAD ACTORS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND WE KNOW THAT IS NOT A STAND ALL BE ALL OF WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT WE HAD TWO INCIDENTS OF INAPPROPRIATE USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO ACCOUNTABILITY IS IS IMPORTANT.

TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT.

AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT, I THINK, ARE THE CONCERNS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE KNOW LAW ENFORCEMENT IS VERY CAPABLE OF DOING THEIR JOB AND WE BELIEVE THEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT FLOCK CAMERAS.

AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE JUST A REMOVAL OF THE LICENSE PLATE READERS ALTOGETHER IN OKLAHOMA.

OKAY, LET'S STICK A PIN ON THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE I WANT TO GET BACK TO THAT LATER.

BUT JD, SPEAKING OF THOSE RULES AROUND THE FLOCK CAMERAS, WHAT KIND OF ASSURANCES DO FOLKS HAVE AT THE EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND THAT DATA IS BEING PROTECTED?

YEAH.

SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, IS DIFFERENT ENTITIES CAN IMPLEMENT THESE PROCESSES IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND SO IN EDMOND, WE WENT TO OUR COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD WITH A PROPOSAL TO BEGIN WITH THAT INCLUDED NOT ONLY HOW WE PLAN TO UTILIZE THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURES AROUND IT, BUT WE ALSO INTRODUCED A COUPLE OF WHITE PAPERS FROM THE ACLU AT THE TIME, BECAUSE WE WANTED OUR CITIZENS TO BE AWARE OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE OPENLY DISCUSSED IN THESE CIRCLES.

AND SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT EDUCATIONAL PROCESS, AND THEN ON TO OUR CITY COUNCIL IN 2023, WHERE WE MADE OUR INITIAL BUDGET PROPOSAL AND INFORMED THEM NOT ONLY OF THE OF THE TECHNOLOGY'S USE AND POSITIVE APPLICATIONS, BUT OF THE CONCERNS THAT THAT OTHERS WOULD HAVE IN, IN THE FIELD.

AND SO FROM THE BEGINNING, WE'VE DONE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND KIND OF OUTLINING THE PROCESSES AND HOW WE WANT TO UTILIZE THOSE THINGS MORE DIRECTLY TO YOUR POINT.

THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY AND THE WAY THAT THEY UTILIZED THEIR AUDIT TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, HAS REALLY BEEN EVOLVING PRETTY HEAVILY OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC DEBATE, WHICH THOSE THINGS ARE ALL POSITIVE.

AND SO AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD SAY TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY IS WE'RE FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICE STANDARDS NOT ONLY WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL ENTITIES THAT THAT GOVERN HOW DATA CAN BE STORED, ESPECIALLY WITH GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.

SO AWS GOV, WHICH IS A CLOUD STANDARD FOR FOR HOW DATA CAN BE STORED.

THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY.

AND THEN ON AND ON.

THERE ARE SEVERAL ENTITIES THAT PUT OUT EXPECTATIONS FOR IF YOU'RE GOING TO UTILIZE DATA, HOW IT HAS TO BE STORED, HOW IT HAS TO BE ACCESSED.

AND THEN AGAIN, IN EDMOND, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO ADOPT THE TOOLS THAT THAT FLOCK SAFETY PROVIDES IN THIS AREA AS FAR AS AUDIT LOGS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR CASE NUMBERS AND AND ROUTINE REVIEW OF THAT.

SO IT DOES NO GOOD TO HAVE AUDIT LOGS IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THEM IN A, IN A, IN A ROUTINE MANNER.

SO, SO AT LEAST MONTHLY AND SOME OF THE ALERTING FEATURES THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE SOFTWARE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT IN AN INCORRECT WAY, NOT THE WAY THAT THEY'RE TRAINED AND IN SOME CASES IN AN ILLEGAL WAY.

AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES IN PLACE, LIKE WE DO FOR ALL OTHER USES OF TECHNOLOGY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

TAMIYA, YOU BROUGHT UP PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.

SO HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT MAYBE SOME KIND OF CITIZENS OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR THESE TYPE OF INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE USED, YOU KNOW, TO COLLECT THAT DATA OUT IN THE OPEN?

HOW HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE CITIZENS GET MORE INVOLVED?

I THINK WE SAW A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WITH CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT DURING THE DEBATE OR DURING THE OKLAHOMA CITY COUNCIL VOTE.

BUT I THINK THE REALITY IS, AT LEAST IF OKLAHOMA CITY IS THAT CITIZENS WANTED THEIR INPUT, BUT THEIR INPUT REALLY WAS THEY DIDN'T WANT THE CAMERAS.

I THINK OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES ARE ALWAYS GREAT ADVISORY BOARDS THAT ARE COMMUNITY LED.

THAT COMMUNITY TRULY HAS INPUT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT THE OVERALL SENTIMENT THAT WE WERE SEEING WITH OKLAHOMA CITY WAS THAT THE CITIZENS DID NOT WANT THIS.

SO INPUT ADVISORY BOARDS ARE GREAT.

GETTING DOWN TO THE TRUTH IS ALL CITIZENS, WE ALL WANT TO FEEL SAFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE JUST DO NOT BELIEVE FLOCK CAMERAS GIVE US THAT SAFETY.

BUT WE DO KNOW WHAT DOES, WHICH IS COMMUNITY POLICING, WHICH IS GETTING TO THE ROOT CAUSES OF MENTAL MENTAL HEALTH, HOUSING STABILITY.

THOSE ARE ALL THE WAYS TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER OVER GOVERNMENT.

GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE AND OVERREACH IS NOT THE WAY TO MAKE US SAFER.

I SEE.

SO, JT, WOULD YOU BE OPEN FOR A CITIZENS OVERSIGHT FOR HOW FLOCK CAMERAS ARE USED THERE IN EDMOND?

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN I DISCUSSED THE POSITION OF CITIZEN OVERSIGHT, I TELL THEM THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS IS WE ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE OF CITIZENS.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GET INTO INFORMATION THAT ANY GOVERNMENT.

BUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE NATURALLY PROHIBITIVE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO SEE THEM.

SO WHETHER THAT BE THE NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION CENTER, NCIC, WHICH PEOPLE MAY KNOW THAT ACRONYM OR THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS A WHICH IS THE FBI OVERSEAS REALLY TECHNOLOGY AND INFORMATION THAT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES THAT ARE CERTIFIED AND APPROVED TO ACCESS CAN GET IN AND ACCESS THAT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE TO THE GENERAL CITIZEN BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE THAT CAN GIVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC CONFIDENCE THAT THAT GOVERNANCE AND COMPLIANCE IS TAKING PLACE.

SO I THINK THE QUESTION'S UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE MORE NUANCED INTO TO HOW THAT GOES.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE DEFINITELY 100% AS GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND SPECIFICALLY LAW ENFORCEMENT NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING AND TRANSPARENT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE ON HOW THAT DATA IS BEING CAPTURED, WHO IS ACCESSING THAT DATA, HOW LONG THAT DATA IS BEING RETAINED, AND ARE THE COMPLIANCE MEASURES WORKING?

SO TO MY REFERENCE TO A LOCAL STORY ABOUT A COUPLE OF OFFICERS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THAT HAD USED IT INAPPROPRIATELY, THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO OKLAHOMA CITY.

I THINK ANYBODY THAT FOLLOWS THIS TOPIC CAN SEE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE BEING HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OF POLICY AND IN SOME CASES, ILLEGAL.

AND WHY SOME MAY SEE THAT AS A STAIN ON THE ON LAW ENFORCEMENT USE OF THIS.

I SEE THAT AS EVIDENCE THAT COMPLIANCE IS, IS DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M PROUD THAT THAT PEOPLE THAT WEAR THE SAME UNIFORM I DO ARE DOING THOSE THINGS.

BUT I DO RECOGNIZE IT'S HUMANS WORKING IN THIS FIELD.

AND SO WE JUST HAVE HAVE TO HAVE GOOD GOVERNANCE, GOOD COMPLIANCE, AND THEN BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC TO LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S OCCURRED AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THE CONTRACTING WORKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU HAVE A RENEWAL PERIOD.

ARE YOU ABLE TO IN BETWEEN THESE CONTRACTS, WORK WITH FLOCK CAMERAS OR WHOEVER SUPPLIES THE VIDEO CAMERAS FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT SAFETY PROTOCOLS ARE PUT IN PLACE, PRIVACY PROTOCOLS ARE PUT IN PLACE.

CAN YOU WORK YOUR CONTRACT THAT WAY?

THE CONTRACT, THE DATA, CONTRARY TO SOME REPORTING, IT IS THE PROPERTY OF THE ENTITY THAT HAS THE CONTRACT.

NOW, IT IS NOT STORED ON PREMISE, SO IT IS A CLOUD STORAGE.

THEY'RE NOT OUR SERVERS.

AND SO THERE ARE ACCESS CONCERNS THAT I THINK ARE LEGITIMATE TO DISCUSS.

BUT WITHIN HOW THAT DATA IS RETAINED, WHO HAS ACCESS TO IT, THE CONTRACTING PARTY.

SO IN THIS CASE EDMOND.

SO WE CONTROL WHETHER WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE THE, THE CURRENT STANDARD 30 DAYS OR THE EVOLVING STANDARD SEVEN DAYS, WHICH WE'VE SEEN THAT TAKING PLACE.

AND I THINK WE'LL TAKE PLACE IN MOST ENTITIES.

THAT IS ALL LIKE IN THE MOMENT, BEING ABLE TO, TO DISCERN THAT.

AND SO JUST LIKE ACCESS TO THE DATA, WHETHER WE WANT TO SHARE WITH END STATE PARTNERS, ONLY SURROUNDING STATE PARTNERS, PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, ASSUMING THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME CERTIFICATION AND TRAININGS THAT WE HAVE AND THE SAME GOVERNANCE AND COMPLIANCE STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE, THOSE CAN ALL BE MADE DAY TO DAY, MINUTE TO MINUTE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT, YEAH, WE SIGNED A CONTRACT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYTHING'S WRITTEN IN STONE FOR 365 DAYS, THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY AND REALLY WITH THE ACLU'S HELP, I THINK MOVING THIS DISCUSSION FORWARD ON WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, NOT ONLY IN GENERAL, BUT FOR SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME.

SO I WANT TO WRAP THINGS UP AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FINAL THOUGHTS.

TAMMY, LET'S START WITH YOU.

I THINK WE ALL WANT PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE WANT SAFER COMMUNITIES.

WE JUST NOT DO NOT BELIEVE THAT FLOCK CAMERAS AND AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE THE WAY TO DO THAT.

SO WE REALLY ENCOURAGING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REALLY WE ALL WANT TO SOLVE CRIME OR AND PREVENT CRIME.

LET'S GET TO THOSE ROOT CAUSES, WHICH IS ADDRESSING MENTAL HEALTH, WHICH IS HOUSING STABILITY AND MORE COMMUNITY POLICING.

AND.

J.D.

FINAL THOUGHTS FROM YOU?

I WOULD JUST SAY, I WOULD HOPE THAT CITIZENS WOULD NOT BE DRAWN INTO THE POPULAR CULTURE DEBATE OF ITS IF YES OR NO 1 OR 2, IT'S NOT.

IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY AND PRIVACY, AND THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE THAT PROTECT AND RECOGNIZE BOTH.

EDMOND POLICE CHIEF J.D.

UNGER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ACLU OF OKLAHOMA, TO MY COX TO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY ON IN DEPTH.

THANK YOU.

AND JASON, THANK YOU.

GREAT CONVERSATION.

EACH WEEK IN OUR NATIONAL VIEW SEGMENT, WE SHARE INTERESTING STORIES PRODUCED BY OUR PBS PARTNERS AND OTHER STATES.

WELL, THIS WEEK WE TRAVEL TO NEIGHBORING KANSAS TO CHECK OUT A VERY EXCITED GROUP OF PROFESSORS AND STUDENTS AT WICHITA STATE UNIVERSITY WHO RECENTLY SAW YEARS OF HARD WORK LAUNCHED INTO SPACE.

CHRIS FRANK REPORTS FOR PBS KANSAS.

AND LIFTOFF OF FALCON NINE, THIS SPACEX FALCON NINE ROCKET LIFT OFF FROM VANDENBERG, CALIFORNIA, CARRIES SOMETHING BUILT MUCH CLOSER TO HOME, PITCHING DOWNRANGE FOR A TEAM OF STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS AT WICHITA STATE UNIVERSITY.

THIS WAS THE MOMENT A DECADE LONG DREAM FINALLY LEFT THE GROUND AT T PLUS, A SMALL SATELLITE KNOWN AS A CUBESAT BUILT IN WICHITA IS NOW IN SPACE.

THAT SATELLITE, NAMED SNAPPY, MARKS THE FIRST SPACECRAFT EVER PUT INTO ORBIT BY WSU.

BOY, WAS IT EXCITING TO SEE IT LAUNCH.

THERE WAS A CHEER WHEN WE.

I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN LOTS OF FALCON NINE LAUNCHES BEFORE, BUT WHEN IT HAS YOUR CUBESAT ON IT, IT'S A FANTASTIC, FUN THING TO WATCH BECAUSE IT'S YOUR CUBESAT.

THIS IS A CLEAN TENT.

BEFORE SNAPPY EVER REACHED SPACE, IT SPENT MONTHS INSIDE THIS CLEAN TENT AT WICHITA STATE UNIVERSITY.

THE CUBESAT GENERATING SO MUCH EXCITEMENT, IS ACTUALLY SMALL ENOUGH TO HOLD IN YOUR HANDS.

AS WSU PHYSICS PROFESSOR HOLGER MEYER DEMONSTRATES, THIS IS ACTUALLY FULL SIZE.

IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF A LOAF OF BREAD, BUT QUITE HEAVY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY PACKED INSIDE.

WHEN WE FIRST VISITED THE PROJECT LAST YEAR, STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS WERE STILL CAREFULLY PREPARING THE SATELLITE FOR LAUNCH.

THEY ONLY WORKED ON IT IN A CLEAN ROOM TO PROTECT THE CUBESAT FROM THE TINIEST SPECK OF DUST.

NOW, FAST FORWARD TO THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF MAY 3RD, 2026.

NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO DEPLOY THESE 11 PAYLOADS, PLUS EIGHT MORE IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS.

THE WSU CUBESAT IS ONE OF FIVE PAYLOADS TO BE LAUNCHED.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SPECTACULAR VIEWS HERE OF OUR PAYLOAD STACKS ON TOP OF THE SECOND STAGE.

THE SECOND STAGE IS CURRENTLY FLYING OVER EASTERN EUROPE.

BACK ON CAMPUS.

THE ANTICIPATION BUILDS AMONGST THOSE WHO HAVE PUT YEARS INTO THIS WORK.

THERE IS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF NERVOUSNESS THERE, BUT ALSO VERY EXCITED AND HOPEFUL ABOUT IT.

WE WILL ALSO BE DEPLOYING SNAPPY, AN ACRONYM FOR SOLAR, NEUTRINO AND ASTROPARTICLE PHYSICS, WHICH IS A NASA INNOVATIVE, ADVANCED CONCEPT FUNDED PROJECT OF WICHITA STATE UNIVERSITY.

LISTEN, AS SPACEX MISSION CONTROL CONFIRMS THE LAUNCHING OF THE PAYLOADS, BRO 21 DEPLOY CONFIRMED NOT ALL OF THE DEPLOYMENTS WERE IN VIEW OF THE CAMERA, BUT WSU'S SNAPPY CUBESAT WAS IN THE RIGHT LAUNCH TUBE FOR VIEWING.

FIRST, WE HEAR MISSION CONTROL'S ANNOUNCEMENT, THEN SEE THE LAUNCH, FOLLOWED BY JUBILATION ERUPTING BACK ON CAMPUS.

SNAPPY DEPLOY CONFIRMED.

SNAPPY DEPLOYMENT.

THAT WAS REAL TIME.

NOW IN SLOW MOTION, A BETTER LOOK AT WSU'S CUBESAT DEPLOYING INTO SPACE.

AND WHEN OURS WAS DEPLOYED, IT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.

IT REALLY TOOK A SHINE TO IT.

SO IT DID.

IT DID A GREAT JOB SHOWING OFF AS IT LAUNCHED OUT OF THE TUBE.

EVERYONE WAS SO EXCITED AND YOU COULD FEEL JUST HOW LIKE EVERYTHING CAME TOGETHER.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE RAISING A CHILD.

IT'S AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN WE HAD THE LAUNCH.

THAT'S LIKE SEEING YOUR CHILD GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND GOING OFF TO COLLEGE.

SO IT IS JUST A, IT'S BEEN A NICE MOMENT, BUT THIS REALLY IS OUR SATELLITE.

WICHITA NATIVE BRIAN DOHERTY IS A DOCTORAL STUDENT AT WSU IN APPLIED MATHEMATICS.

HE IS CURRENTLY THE OPERATIONS MANAGER OF THE SATELLITE.

NOW, HE WAS CONCERNED SNAPPY MIGHT NOT EVEN GET OUT OF THE TUBE BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY HEAVY SATELLITE FOR ITS SIZE.

UNIQUELY HEAVY ACTUALLY.

THE MISSION HOPES TO TEST NEW WAYS OF STUDYING AND MEASURING SOLAR NEUTRINOS CLOSE TO THE SUN.

SOLAR NEUTRINOS ARE TINY PARTICLES CREATED BY THE SUN DURING THE SAME NUCLEAR REACTIONS THAT GIVE US SUNLIGHT AND HEAT.

SOLAR NEUTRINOS TRAVEL THROUGH SPACE AND EVEN OUR BODIES WITHOUT US EVEN NOTICING.

SCIENTISTS STUDY THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN PROVIDE CLUES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING DEEP INSIDE THE SUN.

NOW THAT SNAPPY IS IN ORBIT, THE WORK ON CAMPUS IS TO MONITOR THE CUBESATS COMMUNICATIONS.

BUT THIS REALLY IS OUR SATELLITE.

AND AS IT GOES OVER THE NORTH AND SOUTH POLES, IT'LL TURN ON FOR 15 MINUTES.

TOTAL OUT OF ITS 90 MINUTE ORBIT WILL RETAKE DATA.

DOCTOR SALAMEH SAYS IT TOOK THE INPUT OF MANY WSU DEPARTMENTS TO GET SNAPPY.

LAUNCHED.

SO FAR, THERE'S BEEN 36 STUDENTS FROM ALL DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF THE UNIVERSITY, HAVING HAD PARTICIPATED SO FAR ON THIS PROJECT.

FOR THE STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS WHO SPENT YEARS BUILDING SNAPPY, THE LAUNCH MARKED MORE THAN A SCIENCE MILESTONE.

IT WAS PROOF THAT A PROJECT BUILT IN WICHITA.

THAT THING FLEW OUT.

YEAH, COULD MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO SPACE.

THIS IS CHRIS FRANK FOR POSITIVELY KANSAS.

WAY TO GO, SNAPPY.

ON THE NEXT EDITION OF THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT, MORE THAN A FULL SCHOOL YEAR AFTER BECOMING LAW.

WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF A CELL PHONE BAN FOR STUDENTS, AND SOME OF THE RESULTS MIGHT SURPRISE YOU.

THAT'S COMING UP NEXT FRIDAY AT 7:00.

WE'LL SAY SO LONG FOR NOW, WITH A TOUR OF BRICKTOWN IN OKLAHOMA CITY PUT TOGETHER FOR US BY OETA LEVI WILKERSON.

ALL OF US WHO PLAY A ROLE IN PUTTING THIS NEWSCAST ON THE AIR EACH WEEK.

I'M RICH LENZ.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

THE HEART IS A BLOOM.

SHOOTS UP THROUGH THE STONY GROUND.

THERE'S NO ROOM.

NO SPACE TO RENT IN THIS TOWN.

YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK.

AND THE REASON THAT YOU HAD TO CARE.

THE TRAFFIC IS STUCK.

AND YOU'RE NOT MOVING ANYWHERE.

YOU THOUGHT YOU'D FOUND A FRIEND TO TAKE YOU OUT OF THIS PLACE.

SOMEONE YOU COULD LEND A HAND IN RETURN FOR GRACE.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY.

SKY FALLS.

YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY.

DON'T LET IT GET AWAY.

YOU'RE ON THE ROAD.

BUT YOU GOT NO DESTINATION.

YOU'RE IN THE MIND.

IN THE MAZE OF HER IMAGINATION.

YOU LOVE THIS TOWN.

EVEN IF THIS IS TOTAL COMPOSITION.

NERD CAMP.

NEXT TIME ON GALLERY AMERICA, EIGHT STUDENTS FACE A TIGHT DEADLINE, COMPOSING CLASSICAL MUSIC FOR A LIVE STRING